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Old 12-16-2006   #1 (permalink)
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Hello everyone. Been away for a while. I have a '05, GT, Redfire paint, that I bought brand new. It has 6,000 miles on it. My vehicle sits at my parents house (more room to store it there), and I keep a car cover on it. Since the car cover was blowing off the car on a very windy day, my father took two bricks and tied them to the rear of the car cover, to weigh it down, so the cover wouldn't come off. However, unbeknownst to my dad, the wind was blowing so hard, it still lifted the car cover up, and the two bricks were being slammed against the car all afternoon. When my father discovered this, the damage was extensive to the paint of the trunk, and possibly other areas on the rear of the car. (My dad did this without my examination of it, and he had good intentions.) My father has offered to paint the rear of the car himself, but I am concerned that the paint will not look as good as the factory Redfire paint, and that it will not match up completely. This car has been kept in mint condition until this incident. It isn't even driven in the rain, and the undercarraige is as clean as the exterior of the car; it's not a daily driver. So, even though this makes me sick, I am wondering if I should get just the rear of the car repainted, or tell them that the whole car needs painting since it may not match. I would hate to strip off factory paint, but I don't want the car to look mismatched. I can't believe this has happened!
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There's absolutely no need to strip and paint the entire car. A good body shop will be able to match the color of the repainted body panel to the rest of the car. You won't be able to tell the difference. The car isn't old, so there's little fading. And even if there was, the shop could tint the color to match.
Your Dad had good intentions and it's very nice of him to offer to repaint the rear of the car. Go ahead and get a good shop. All will be well.
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Calling MickMach,
Can you help styln Tang out?
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If a brick has been bouncing on your rear quarter panels, you will be needing some body repair as well. If they just hit the rear bumper cover, the repair should be simple (urethane can usually absorb a good bit of damage without needing replacement).

In either case, I wonder if your dad is offering "to repair it himself" or pay for it to be done at a good shop. Any competent shop should be able to repaint the damaged areas (do have them do a "repaint" rather than a spot repair - ie, paint the entire bumper cover, trunk lid, etc.), though it would be a good idea to make certain they do the repairs with high quality paints and clear coat.

I agree with the earlier respondent - a complete repaint of the car is neither called for nor advisable.

Sorry for the accident, but such things occur.

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Hello everyone. Been away for a while. I have a '05, GT, Redfire paint, that I bought brand new. It has 6,000 miles on it. My vehicle sits at my parents house (more room to store it there), and I keep a car cover on it. Since the car cover was blowing off the car on a very windy day, my father took two bricks and tied them to the rear of the car cover, to weigh it down, so the cover wouldn't come off. However, unbeknownst to my dad, the wind was blowing so hard, it still lifted the car cover up, and the two bricks were being slammed against the car all afternoon. When my father discovered this, the damage was extensive to the paint of the trunk, and possibly other areas on the rear of the car. (My dad did this without my examination of it, and he had good intentions.) My father has offered to paint the rear of the car himself, but I am concerned that the paint will not look as good as the factory Redfire paint, and that it will not match up completely. This car has been kept in mint condition until this incident. It isn't even driven in the rain, and the undercarraige is as clean as the exterior of the car; it's not a daily driver. So, even though this makes me sick, I am wondering if I should get just the rear of the car repainted, or tell them that the whole car needs painting since it may not match. I would hate to strip off factory paint, but I don't want the car to look mismatched. I can't believe this has happened!
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He put the bricks on top of the trunk? I can't imagine that. All my covers have the elastic sewn in on the bottom and are fairly tight. No wind will blow them off. The only problem I see w/ the paint is that a paint shop will do a better job. i.e., orange peel look from the factory wouldn't be duplicated. Bummer! good luck.
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styln Tang is a good 3 hrs away. Im about 10 miles off I-81 then 3 miles off I-66 bud...we'd be glad to take care of it! as the guys have said..no need to repaint the entire car...you car is in excellent shape. We paint Redfire vehicles all the time and no problems matching...Its a very good color for us.
from what I understand..your father wants to paint it himself? dont get me wrong but unless he is setup to do the repair almost professionally then I wouldnt do it.......I dont know what your father's setup is. today basecoat/clearcoat is a different animal to be doin in a garage at home.

I feel for ya bud would make me sick too. however your dad was doin what he thought was best
let me know Im sure you guys have Quality shops down your way?
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I think some of what I wrote was misinterpreted. My father wants to pay for it being painted, not paint it himself. I was wondering, how do I know if a paint shop will use the exact quality of paint that the factory used, and not some cheap paint? Will a Ford dealership do the work, and put the same quality of paint on the car, or is it something that only a different body shop will do?
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just ask them.... Dupont, PPG, R-M, ICI and dont laugh but Sherwin Williams I'd say is on top of their game in the Automotive Refinishing dept thses days!
A Ford Dealership can do it but I'd make sure they have their own body shop and not sublet it out to some Joe blow shop down the road. I say its best to ask around of the quality of shops in your area. you must not have a shop that you are well aware of?
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He put the bricks on top of the trunk? I can't imagine that. All my covers have the elastic sewn in on the bottom and are fairly tight. No wind will blow them off. The only problem I see w/ the paint is that a paint shop will do a better job. i.e., orange peel look from the factory wouldn't be duplicated. Bummer! good luck.
Actually, orange peel can be duplicated in a good shop. I've had door dings fixed on my F150 and my shop painted with the objective of matching the orange peel. Just as they told me they left it a little bit more pronounced as the paint tends to flatten over time.
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Actually, orange peel can be duplicated in a good shop. I've had door dings fixed on my F150 and my shop painted with the objective of matching the orange peel. Just as they told me they left it a little bit more pronounced as the paint tends to flatten over time.
ditto, I've got a buddy that runs one of the best body shops around here and I've watched him replicate the orangepeel look. It takes skill, (or lack thereof in some cases) to get it right. I'm pretty sure any reputable shop would not try to repair a bumper either, most will strip the whole bumper and repaint it. Matching today is not a problem in the least. Plus, many paint companies run their techs through training to apply it right so they can offer a lifetime warranty on the work to guarantee it will match for as long as you own the car. Spies-Hecker actually warrants the work for as long as the car is around, regardless of the number of owners.
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