I was looking online and saw the Ninosport dual exhaust which is not true dual, its a Y to Y make it a cross over X, is it good to run that system, im not going FI at all, as long as it sounds a bit louder than single and have a nice look im happy. My important question is if i go single exhaust with Y pipe to a shop and they cut the pipe and then plit to two, if its cold, would only steam come from one muffler? It will look really bad if it does, i just want to see going not true dual, cut the mid pipe and split to 2 will the smoke comes from 2 mufflers or only 1???
I was looking online and saw the Ninosport dual exhaust which is not true dual, its a Y to Y make it a cross over X, is it good to run that system, im not going FI at all, as long as it sounds a bit louder than single and have a nice look im happy.
With the Ninosport dual conversion with the second Y pipe you'll have the look of duals but they won't be true duals. You should see 'smoke,' if there is anything of the such to speak of, coming from both muffler tips. Whether it will sound better isn't something I can say for sure. If loudness is all you're looking for then you should consider either a muffler delete or replacing the muffler with a straight pipe and polished tip. That would give you the loudest possible setup. Headers might help a bit too.
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Originally Posted by venom800tt
My important question is if i go single exhaust with Y pipe to a shop and they cut the pipe and then plit to two, if its cold, would only steam come from one muffler? It will look really bad if it does, i just want to see going not true dual, cut the mid pipe and split to 2 will the smoke comes from 2 mufflers or only 1???
I'm not sure what you're asking here but I think you're asking if you have a shop install a second Y pipe after your existing Y pipe (like the Ninosport kit does) then will it only emit 'smoke' from one side. The answer to this is the same as the answer to the Ninosport question: no, it should emit smoke from both mufflers.
If I totally botched up that last question then forgive me but i'm having a bit of trouble understanding what you're getting at.
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With the Ninosport dual conversion with the second Y pipe you'll have the look of duals but they won't be true duals. You should see 'smoke,' if there is anything of the such to speak of, coming from both muffler tips. Whether it will sound better isn't something I can say for sure. If loudness is all you're looking for then you should consider either a muffler delete or replacing the muffler with a straight pipe and polished tip. That would give you the loudest possible setup. Headers might help a bit too.
I'm not sure what you're asking here but I think you're asking if you have a shop install a second Y pipe after your existing Y pipe (like the Ninosport kit does) then will it only emit 'smoke' from one side. The answer to this is the same as the answer to the Ninosport question: no, it should emit smoke from both mufflers.
If I totally botched up that last question then forgive me but i'm having a bit of trouble understanding what you're getting at.
Thanks a lot for the info, no actually im not looking at loud muffler, i dont like really loud, i love how the single GT sounds and was wondering going dual will add a bit more to it not too much.
For the smoke i read somewhere here that someone didnt go dual, he cut the mid muffler and split it into 2 at the back, its way cheaper than true dual but he said in a start up smoke only comes from 1 muffler. I actually saw a video of a old Pontiac Grand AM dual which same thing happened. I dont see why it should happen if they split into 2 after then 2nd muffler (left muffler) should be the same as the 1st one (right muffler).
Now reason im asking is because the Mopac shop i went, they said because of the gas tank, they cant go true dual and they have to cut the pipe before gas tank and then split into 2, not true dual, but same look if you dont look under.
I will see the price difference of the true dual vs not true and if its couple hundred difference then i will go true dual with H-pipe.
smoke? lol. Yeah, man, you will see exhaust emitting from both mufflers. If your interested in the Ninosport, keep in mind that it only supports the cat back pipe end diameter, 3.5" if I'm not mistaken, of the Mustang GT. So if you have any current after market cat-back for you V6, you will have to get rid of it and pick up two Mustang GT catbacks.
As far as the configuration of the Ninosport goes, merely connecting to and ultimately leaving the Y-pipe unmodified, as I 'm sure you know- this would not be true dual. Don't let Ninosport fool you with their title for this kit. Personally, I am in the market for the same modification as you (dual exhaust), and should have it installed by the Summer. I do not care if I have true dual or not, after all- who's looking underneath your car? And without a nice tune and CAI, though the back flow is less restrictive either way, the performance you gain is comparable with X, Y- or H. Even with the extra mods the performance gain is still marginal. But, they all do what is most important...create a less restrictive backflow, some configs better than others, but they all do the job. That's the most important thing. Of course I would prefer the X pipe config, and I think Pypes dual exhaust kit gives you that, but currently I am leaning towards Magnaflow's dual exhaust kit, which is the same config as the Ninosport (leaves the Y pipe intact), but 10X better quality than both of them. Plus, with the Magnaflow kit, your mufflers are already welded on, so ther's no need to buy catbacks. Magnaflow offers an unparalleled quality and value. Look into the Magnaflow kit, its around 5 bills. As far as sound, that will be up to what catbacks you stick on the end of the kit. For example, if you stuck stock mufflers on there- the sound diffrence would be louder, but nothing noticable. With the Ninosport, the lowest end upgrade would be two stock GT mufflers, and yes the sound would be louder, but I do not think you'd be pleased with it. I wouldn't be. Now if you stuck two Flowmasters or Magnas on there you would be smiling. That's why I say go with the Magnaflow kit where you get the whole package. Later.
But thats if I was going to go dual which I don't plan on doing at this point. I like the look but for the price ($500-600) i'm happy with my single and would be much happier putting that money toward rims/tires.
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But thats if I was going to go dual which I don't plan on doing at this point. I like the look but for the price ($500-600) i'm happy with my single and would be much happier putting that money toward rims/tires.
On that kit are the driver side hangers included or do you have to purchase the pypes hanger kit too?
I'm pretty sure you have to buy the hanger kit too. You might be able to find some hangers on eBay but I'm not sure. I believe the hanger kit runs around $85.
For me its more about cost than anything. If duals were cheaper then i'd already have them. With the cost of the hangers ($50-80) the piping with labor ($300-500) and the axle-backs ($300-500) you're looking at $650-880 for the entire setup. Thats excluding what you'll pay for someone to trim your v6 bumper or the cost of buying a GT bumper to accomodate the drivers side muffler tip. It just seems so much more cost effective to throw a single muffler on there for the same performance and still get comparable sound out of it for 1/3 of the price.
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Yea thats right im with you on that. Thats why i want to avoid buying a kit and let the shop make the pipes from scratch which would make it way cheaper. I want to get a quote from them and if its too much i will think of different route
Hmmm, thats way more expensive than i thought, people claimed they did it for $300 and some even less. I already bought my CAI, tuner and bama tune. So my mods are done. I got the pony pkg so my tires and rims are good too. I think exhaust would be my final mod until my warranty expires which is in 5 years So i might spend the extra $ to get a decent dual. Thanks "Black05pony" for the advice
i just ordered a set of gt takeoff mufflers tonight. i`m leaning towards a h pipe i think. does anyone know: i guess i`ll need the h, a mid pipe for the drivers side and pass side and a hanger kit? i might throw on just the one muffler for fun till i get all the stuff together. cutting that bumper should be cake. if i could get all bolt on, i would do the whole thing myself.( i do have a small mig welder though) any suggestions or pointers,,,, i hope. i`m feeling a little excited about my first real mod
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one of the other dual exaust threads said the gas tank wouldnt be a problem, is that true?
There isn't anything special about running true duals on a V6, the factory could have done it as an upgrade option if they wanted, but that is why they have the gt's right? as far as routing them, it should be smooth sailin. I had mine installed by midas, but in looking at it, I could have bolted them on just like they came. I had the system welded instead for longevity.
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Thats excluding what you'll pay for someone to trim your v6 bumper or the cost of buying a GT bumper to accomodate the drivers side muffler tip..
Black05pony, I understand the money thing for not going duals, but don't let cutting the bumper scare you. I am not a genious, I don't own every tool sears carries, and I am a far cry from a car body expert, with that said...... cutting my bumper for my dual exhaust took all of about 15 minutes, and looks great, I did it with a roto-zip attachment to my dremmel, used the template from Pypes, and let er rip. SUPER easy. My 12 year old daughter could have done it. Seriously. The bumper cuts like butter with a rotary tool, and you can be as precise to your lines as you want, or give yourself wiggle room and finish with sanding. I cut about 3-4 mm inside the line from the template, then finished it with the rotary sanding drums. IMO it really does look like it could have come from the factory that way.