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Old 06-23-2009   #1 (permalink)
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Default 2005 Mustang V6 differential - What's really going on inside?

This is probably a dumb question but when I was a kid, if you had your car up on the lift and turned one rear tire, if the other one turned the same way you had posi,if it turned the opposite way, you had open axle. At least that's how I remember. I had my 2005 V6 up on the lift the other day to repair a broken heat shield and I turned one tire. The drive shaft turned but the other tire stayed still. Same result if you turn the other tire. Is there no connection between the two axles? Yet both are connected to the drive shaft? I am confused a little. Thanks for wising me up as to what is going on inside the pumpkin.
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Oh no!!!

It's broken!

Quick, get a 7.5 LSD now!!!
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I know they have live axles but I swore both mine moved when i spuin the tires and if your going to get soemthing new get rid of the 7.5 and get an 8.8.
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Oh no!!!

It's broken!

Quick, get a 7.5 LSD now!!!
+1 that would be the best way to fix that problem
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Actually, I was hoping someone out there could tell me how each wheel could turn the drive shaft but not each other. If I had turned the drive shaft (I should have thought of that) would BOTH wheels turn or only the right one?

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The following description of a differential applies to a "traditional" rear-wheel-drive car or truck:
Power is supplied from the engine, via the transmission , to a drive shaft which runs to the differential. A spiral bevel pinion gear at the end of the propeller shaft is encased within the differential itself, and it meshes with the large spiral bevel ring gear.The ring gear is attached to a carrier, which holds what is sometimes called a spider, a cluster of four bevel gears in a rectangle, so each bevel gear meshes with two neighbors and rotates counter to the third, that it faces and does not mesh with. Two of these spider gears are aligned on the same axis as the ring gear and drive the half shafts connected to the vehicle's driven wheels. These are called the side gears. The other two spider gears are aligned on a perpendicular axis which changes orientation with the ring gear's rotation. These two gears are just called pinion gears, not to be confused with the main pinion gear. As the carrier rotates, the changing axis orientation of the pinion gears imparts the motion of the ring gear to the motion of the side gears by pushing on them rather than turning against them (that is, the same teeth stay in contact), but because the spider gears are not restricted from turning against each other, within that motion the side gears can counter-rotate relative to the ring gear and to each other under the same force (in which case the same teeth do not stay in contact).
Thus, for example, if the car is making a turn to the right, the main ring gear may make 10 full rotations. During that time, the left wheel will make more rotations because it has further to travel, and the right wheel will make fewer rotations as it has less distance to travel. The side gears will rotate in opposite directions relative to the ring gear by, say, 2 full turns each (4 full turns relative to each other), resulting in the left wheel making 12 rotations, and the right wheel making 8 rotations.
The rotation of the ring gear is always the average of the rotations of the side gears. This is why if the wheels are lifted off the ground with the engine off, and the drive shaft is held (preventing the ring gear from turning inside the differential), manually rotating one wheel causes the other to rotate in the opposite direction by the same amount.
When the vehicle is traveling in a straight line, there will be no differential movement of the planetary system of gears other than the minute movements necessary to compensate for slight differences in wheel diameter, undulations in the road (which make for a longer or shorter wheel path), etc.

I stole this from wikepedia, so don't think I am some kind of physics genius. Hope this helps. It helped ME understand it, and I thought I understood it before I even looked at this post
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Thanks Bill,

I think I understand it. At least more than I understood it BEFORE I read it.

So you have to hold onto the drive shaft to see the action I referred to. (opposite wheel moving in opposite directions) Funny how rear axles were always a mystery to me while engines and transmissions always made perfect sense.
Thanks for your help.
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