[Torpedo]

Unless I am missing something here,

Wouldn't bolting a supercharger onto a 2005-2009 v6 kind of be the same thing as buying the new 2011 v6 mustang, if not better?

Gas mileage isn't even changed I don't think.

Not sure why current v6 owners are bummed and talking of trading in for the new ones.

Just my opinion, but I prefer the look of the 05-09 over the 2010+ anyway. Throwing a supercharger on would give you the same car, with a better appearance.

Again, not sure if I am missing something here, but I am not understanding all the fuss.

[M11Stephen]

Personally I doubt the base V6 Mustang is going to be that 315HP from the Taurus SHO or the Lincon MKS. I don't see how they're going to do that and still be able to sell the car for $21,000. Maybe we'll see the 4.0L V6, the 315 3.7L V6, and then the new GT... When will we know for sure?

[Torpedo]

I think it was pretty much confirmed it wouldn't be the 4.0 anymore. Dec 5th at the LA auto show is when they officially unveil it.

If GM has their 300hp Camaro, I am pretty sure Ford is following suit.

I still would consider just throwing on a supercharger to make the most sense from a power and appearance standpoint. I am unsure if it would be more cost effective than opting for a 2011 mustang though..

[P4452]

The only thing I don't understand is how the HELL they are going to make it run on 87 octane. The 3.6L Chevy Camaro runs 11.4 static on 87, so it has to be possible... Or they differed funds from efficiency to bribery... hahaha

[P4452]

A Novi supercharger basically turns a V6 into a V8 with 2 less injectors and spark plugs. They're massive enough to account for the room of two cylinders! It's all fine-and-dandy under low boost, but the 4.0's are EXTREMELY well known for cracked pistons and/or blown gaskets from most systems producing as little as 6 PSI. Adding insult to injury, quite literally, you have to use premium gas with most forced induction systems, even low-boost ones!

[Animal's 3rd]

Car technology has evolved so much in just the past 10 years, we are all still thinking in 80-90's engine technology. Direct Injection coupled with coil on plug ignition, or maybe even the new laser ignition Ford announced a month ago, along with variable cam timing and today's newest engine computers can accomplish alot with a little. Ten years ago getting 300hp from a V8 would require a good set of modifications and 91 or even with some engines, 93 octane.
We aren't done with the internal combustion engine yet...

[P4452]

Lasers replacing spark plugs is a whole car generation away!

[M11Stephen]

How are they going to put this engine in the 2011 V6 Stang and sell it for 21K??

[Torpedo]

Animal I do agree with you there, but in the end, isn't the end result still the same?

Buy DI 2011 v6 probably with a price increase, or just put a supercharger on and have the nice body style still.

And hopefully they don't hike the price up like they did on those new Camaros.

[Animal's 3rd]

Originally Posted by Torpedo

Animal I do agree with you there, but in the end, isn't the end result still the same?

Buy DI 2011 v6 probably with a price increase, or just put a supercharger on and have the nice body style still.

And hopefully they don't hike the price up like they did on those new Camaros.

Don't get me wrong I love my car's body styling, and I am one of the few out there that love the 2010 all around. I'm with you, slap FI on my car and have no problem with the new ones yeah!
What will happen though when people with the new 3.7 slap a supercharger on them?
Nissan is probably rubbing their hands together in worry trying to figure out what they can do now, now that Ford has a motor that can compete with their beloved V6.

Back on track, I'm probably going to keep my car N/A since I plan to get one of the new 5.0 GT's in a few years. But yeah, I agree with you...

[Animal's 3rd]

Originally Posted by P4452

Lasers replacing spark plugs is a whole car generation away!

Did you read this article at all?
Ford Laser Equipped Ignition System to Replace Spark Plugs - Ford Mustang News

[ONEZ ST]

Ford is backed into a corner with the base model Camaro pushing out the same horsepower with their V6 as a Mustang GT.

To compete it has to shove something besides a Ranger engine into the base model Mustang and keep the price below the competitors.

Keep in mind that the 2011 V6 will still fall short on HP and Torque compared to the base Camaro. So it would be stupid pricing strategy for Ford to seek an MSRP that is the same as the more potent V6 Camaro.

Originally Posted by M11Stephen

How are they going to put this engine in the 2011 V6 Stang and sell it for 21K??

[Torpedo]

Ehhh, it being less than the camaro? For sure?

If it is 279 then yes, but 315 then no?

We will have to wait for the auto show to know for sure. Shouldn't be too painful, less than a month away!

[M11Stephen]

The current GT is still faster than the 2010 Camaro V6... The HP may be about the same but the GT still has more torque. The GT is rougly 1.2 seconds faster than the 2010 V6 Camaro.

If Ford makes the new V6 to fast then people will stop buying GT's... I agree that Ford needs to remain competitive and beef up there V6 and GT models but keep the prices at the current price point and make sure there is still a substantial difference between the two models.

[750chop]

I think people will always buy GT's no matter what else they offer.