Hello everyone, just wanted to let you know what I've recently been advised about by my dealer, in terms of the status of all the Mustang GT orders. I had been looking for a GT for several weeks in Jan., and one of the dealerships that I visited told me that they had a guy that had ordered his Mustang GT in Nov, and it still had no production date, and was not being made in Jan. and, then in Feb. too. I ordered a 2005, Mustang GT, on 02/26/2005, from one of the dealerships in my area. On 03/14/2005, I called the dealer up, to see if he had any news about production date, and shipping date. He informed me something that was a little surprising.
He said that Ford had called him and informed him that the Ford factory was so overwhelmed with Mustang GT orders, that they had already approved production for as many as they could squeeze in. The Mustang GT last production date in mid June, and Ford was going to be doing good to finish the orders that they have already accepted. The Ford rep. told my dealer that Ford has about 700-1000 GT orders that they are going to have to reject, and will not be able to build them for 2005. The Ford rep. said that my order was supposed to be one of those orders, that was headed towards file 13, so he wanted to call my dealer to let him know. My dealer told me that he is owed some favors by this Ford rep., because the dealer had done a lot of favors for this particular Ford rep. in the past, so the dealer told me that he tried to persuade the Ford rep. to repay him one of those favors by pulling my order out of the 'clean and unscheduled' pile, put it in production asap. My dealer informed me that it is not a 'sure' thing yet, but he will know by 03/18/2005, or the early part of next week.
I hung the phone up, a little discouraged, and got an idea, so I called him back. I said that we should forget about the order, take my $1000 down, and put it towards a already made Mustang GT that is close to my specifications on my original order, and just by it from another dealership in the country. My dealer said that he could do that, however, he said that his personal feeling is that my car will me made. My dealer said that his Ford rep. would not have called if he wasn't going to try and get my order to be built, he would have just said, "We cannot fill this order because of too little time and too little manpower." So, my dealer assured me that my order will probably be built, but he can give me a definite answer in a couple of days.
What I wanted to let everyone know is that my dealer gave the impression, that if you have an order that is still listed as "clean and unscheduled," there is a VERY good possibility that you will not be receiving your order for the 2005 Ford mustang GT. Evidently, Ford is so overwhelmed that they are having to turn customers away, but only after these customers have ordered their mustangs that the dealership is being informed that they are not able to make any more. Ford is trying to squeeze in the already overloaded GT order data base, to finish in mid June, that they cannot make anymore that isn't already been approved. My dealer informed me that if Ford cannot make my Mustang this year, that I will have to wait for the 2006 to come out, and even then, they are not sure how much production will be processed then. I wanted to let you know what I've been told by my dealer, cuz if yours is still 'clean and unscheduled' then you may want to prepare yourself for not being able to get one this year. Keep checking with your dealer. If you ordered one through a really large dealer, they may not be all that willing to stay on Ford's back about your order, cuz if they are selling a lot of cars, it means that aren't going to be losing any money if your car isn't made, therefore, it's no loss to them if you don't get your car. By the way, my dealer ordered my Mustang GT, premium package, IUP, etc. for $26,900.00. I couldn't turn that deal down.
Maybe it's just me, but it doesnt matter that they turn the orders away. From what I know as soon as they stop production on 2005, they start right away on production of 2006. It's not like they close down for the summer. 2006 models don't have anytihng different in terms of styling changes, otherwise we would have heard of it. So I would think your order would just be tossed in the first of the 2006 mustangs to be made. Of course this is just my common sense, no facts whatsoever. What do you think?
Also, they if they stopped production early, that would mean they would have to start on producing 2006 right away...otherwise they will just get behind even further(orders would pile up over the summer, and those are the huge months for buying a mustang), which would work against what they are trying to do.
It is likely that Ford will toss out orders for 2005 models which will require a new order at the dealer for a 2006. I don't believe Ford automatically moves unfulfilled orders from one model year to another.
FYI, I ordered my Redfire GT Premium/AT/IUP on Dec 8th and late last week was given a build date the week of April 4th. Anyone who ordered any Mustang with the IUP had their order put on hold for at least one month due to a patent lawsuit over the "my color" dash light system. Info on that is contained within the forum. Now that patent holder has been satisfied, Ford is building Mustangs with the IUP. If the orderer did not check the IUP option, then things got processed more quickly. Dealers here in So. California have plenty of V6's and GT's, but none have the Interior Upgrade Package. One dealer told me that they would be getting some GT's in with the IUP the week of March 21st. so I would expect there should be some a.v. that are not already sold.
I ordered my GT in Nov. 24 04 still clean and unscheduled..
It might be time too get that 05 GTO.(400 HP). Not a bad car either
I test drove one and it was sweet, and you can get one immediatlely..
I want my GT Mustang but If I get bumped that's it, GTO TIME..
It has to be dealer specific. Some dealer's must be taking way more orders than will ever have allocations for.
I ordered 2/9/05, got a build week of 3/7/05, and as of today it is showing as "shipped by convoy carrier", so it will have taken me 7-8 weeks from order to delivery, depending on when it arrives.
It's a 5 speed GT with IUP, all the things that are supposed to be delaying orders. Only thing I didn't get was the Shaker (thanks to these boards )
Maybe it's just me, but it doesnt matter that they turn the orders away. From what I know as soon as they stop production on 2005, they start right away on production of 2006. It's not like they close down for the summer. 2006 models don't have anytihng different in terms of styling changes, otherwise we would have heard of it. So I would think your order would just be tossed in the first of the 2006 mustangs to be made. Of course this is just my common sense, no facts whatsoever. What do you think?
According to my dealer (mentioned at time of order & reconfirmed a couple weeks ago) if an 05 gets bumped to an 06, the order must be resubmitted. When I placed my order on Feb 18th, there was a question as to if it was going to be an 05 or if we'd have to order an 06. We're, of course, shooting for an 05. When I spoke with him reguarding an update a week or two ago & further questions on if its an 06, he specifically stated that the 05 order would be "canceled" & we'd start all over again going for an 06. While it might make sense to us end users that 05 orders would be rolled into 06s, that doesnt appear to be the way it works (and given how many people may actually outright cancel, it kinda makes sense they'd do it that way). My suggestion if you are in this boat is to continue to be in contact with your dealer & if you're bumped to an 06... get the order in as soon as you can...
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According to my dealer (mentioned at time of order & reconfirmed a couple weeks ago) if an 05 gets bumped to an 06, the order must be resubmitted. When I placed my order on Feb 18th, there was a question as to if it was going to be an 05 or if we'd have to order an 06. We're, of course, shooting for an 05. When I spoke with him reguarding an update a week or two ago & further questions on if its an 06, he specifically stated that the 05 order would be "canceled" & we'd start all over again going for an 06. While it might make sense to us end users that 05 orders would be rolled into 06s, that doesnt appear to be the way it works (and given how many people may actually outright cancel, it kinda makes sense they'd do it that way). My suggestion if you are in this boat is to continue to be in contact with your dealer & if you're bumped to an 06... get the order in as soon as you can...
Yeah, the only bad thing about that (if it does not otherwise make a difference to you whether you have an '05 or '06) is that the price for the '06's is bound to go up, just as Ford upped the prices slightly across the board on February 18th. I wish Ford would let you lock into the a price, and if you don't get an '05, you'd get an '06 at that price, but apparently, it doesn't work that way. I can see the '06's easily being $1k-2k+ more...
That news has been told to my brother too.
A few 05 Stang colors will be dropped to for new Legend colors.
PS:Newford.....if you must jump(you'll regret it) the fence to the GM (Aussi)camp heres a tip.
You may want to wait...........there redoing the goat for 07 on a US platform.Whole new body(bigger) and is actualy (supposidly)going to look like a goat.
and theres talk about variations.....ie The Judge
If they are already maxed out on GT's then why in God's name are they still accepting orders for 05's, knowing they will get cancelled. Doesn't make any sense to me. Not to mention what it would do to the Ford name.
If I can take your $500 and promise you that you have a spot in line, I can prevent you from buying a car from some other dealer for a while. Eventually maybe we'll talk about what you want instead.. since for reasons beyond my control I couldn't get you that GT... and I'm ever so sorry about that but "can I interest you in a lovely TBird for $8K below sticker?"
Buy it. It is what's happening - you're being taken out of the market by dealers who don't have a stake in whether or not you get your car. Dealers are taking orders they can't mathematically fill for 05 Mustangs.
First off, I haven't put any money down and the only way they can make money is to deliver the car I ordered. Second, the salesman knows I won't hesitate to buy another make if he can't get what I want. When my Excursion didn't come thorugh, I bought a Suburban.
Other dealers may be pulling this crap, but not this one. I've known the salesman personally for twenty years. He is a straight shooter and tells it like it is. Oh, and they sell at or below MSRP, no matter what the car.
So, I'm still not convinced. If the dealer takes the order and you get a DORA, you will most likely get the car.
My dealer here in Va just told me last night that Ford Just told them that day that only 6 of the 13 GT orders they have in the order bank will be filled. The rest will be kicked back and have to reorder. I was number 10 in line, so I was screwed. Found a car in Conneticut on the lot that was the exact car I ordered, bought it and picking it up Saturday. Believe it, it is true, a lot of people will not be getting their 2005 GT orders filled.
Even though what we think makes sense, and it usually does, doesn't seem to make the transition in to reality, when it comes to business. onewildhart, unfortunately, there are many dealers that are doing dirty business, and ordering Mustang GT's for customers, after the customer put his deposit down, knowing that he will not be able to get them an 05. When the customer is finally told, months later of this, they request their deposit back, and a lot of dealers try to say that it is not refundable. Therefore, the dealers are ripping customers off, knowing that they cannot get an 05 order processed. What seems to be the case with most dealers is that they do not know, and they are ordering the 05's without this knowledge. Basically, Ford is not staying on top of the ball by notifying the dealers of this, and dealers are being informed only after the customer orders their Mustang. Then the dealer has the unlucky job on contacting the customer and notifying them that there Mustang order will not be built, and they will not be able to get an 05, unless they buy one that is already on someone's lot. Also, if someone has a 05 order that is cancelled, it does not transfer over to the 06 database. Reality is, the 2006's have been made for some time this year already, to get ready for the fall. However, if someone has an 05 order cancelled, it cancelled for good. In order to get an 06 ordered, you must go back to your dealer, and resubmitt an entirely new order, and they will be given a new price quote. The prices for the 06 will change, therefore your old 05 order price is obsolete. You will not get the same price quote, and reality is, it will probably be higher than any deal you got on an 05 order.
2005 mustang production of orders 
Time too look somewhere else..... 
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