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Doesn't the Mustang and Camaro do the same 1/4 mile?
This is what I was going to say two....nearly every "respected" car magazine has done the comparison test between the Camaro, Challenger and Mustang for 2010.

They almost all call the Mustang the best car. (look it up I'm not BSing)
Some of these guys are so in awe of the bigger number (HP) on that SS they're missing the simple fact that the mustang with only 315 bhp is TWO-TENTHS OF A SECOND slower in 0-60... and the 1/4 mile was nearly as close. That's with over a HUNDRED less hp. Better ride, better design, bigger trunk, better inside. Oh and it's CHEAPER.
The slightest modification and you're already smoking a stock SS.

Let's face it, you gotta love chevy,GM, or simply the look of the 2010 Camaro to want it over a new Mustang.
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This is what I was going to say two....nearly every "respected" car magazine has done the comparison test between the Camaro, Challenger and Mustang for 2010.

They almost all call the Mustang the best car. (look it up I'm not BSing)
Some of these guys are so in awe of the bigger number (HP) on that SS they're missing the simple fact that the mustang with only 315 bhp is TWO-TENTHS OF A SECOND slower in 0-60... and the 1/4 mile was nearly as close. That's with over a HUNDRED less hp. Better ride, better design, bigger trunk, better inside. Oh and it's CHEAPER.
The slightest modification and you're already smoking a stock SS.

Let's face it, you gotta love chevy,GM, or simply the look of the 2010 Camaro to want it over a new Mustang.

well said sir...........
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do u know wher u are buddy?? this site is full of die hard ford and mustang lovers screw chevy all the way o and to all u who entered for the power block 2010 foose stang im gona win and thats that

gm makes a good product, some cars, stock production, like the ws6 TA are verry respectable and respond well to mods
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I generally see the results vary a little bit more... Camaro usually runs quarter in 12.9-13.1s vs the mustangs 13.5-13.8s.
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Ditto.... but I still love my new 2010 Stang. I considered the Camaro, but i'm a ford guy. Plus, for a everyday driver, I like using 87 octane Gas and most major comparisons give the nod to the Mustang GT anyway as a everyday driver.....

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I generally see the results vary a little bit more... Camaro usually runs quarter in 12.9-13.1s vs the mustangs 13.5-13.8s.
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I would go for the Mustang. If you ask me the Camaro is over rated anyway. It's a cool car don't get me wrong, but for the money you could easily upgrade a stang and run circles around that Camaro. Even my '03 can keep up with an SS and it's got over 100 horses less. I'm not impressed.
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I choose the Mustang, but to be honest. If you are worried about the 1/4 mile, the just wait till the new engine is out. It should be in the new 2011 which will kick the camero's but. 400 / 400 and rockout. The Mustang is always the underdog so i support it.

PS Plus FORD didnt take the money from the goverment so, i believe in supporting the company that can do it on its own merrits. Just my 2 cents.
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yea if the 2010 pony had the 5.0 then definitely pony! but thats not till late 2012.
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This is what I was going to say two....nearly every "respected" car magazine has done the comparison test between the Camaro, Challenger and Mustang for 2010.

They almost all call the Mustang the best car. (look it up I'm not BSing)
Some of these guys are so in awe of the bigger number (HP) on that SS they're missing the simple fact that the mustang with only 315 bhp is TWO-TENTHS OF A SECOND slower in 0-60... and the 1/4 mile was nearly as close. That's with over a HUNDRED less hp. Better ride, better design, bigger trunk, better inside. Oh and it's CHEAPER.
The slightest modification and you're already smoking a stock SS.

Let's face it, you gotta love chevy,GM, or simply the look of the 2010 Camaro to want it over a new Mustang.
If you spend the same on both cars then the Stang would win. Like the Camaro is 34,000 and the mustang is 32,000 ( Basic models GT and SS) That leaves the mustang a $2000 to buy upgrades for the mustang. Kinda like the guys with high end imports such as Lambos. If i spent 100,000 bucks on a mustang it would look cooler and be much faster.

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I would go with the Camaro SS Beast over the 2010 Gt as I dont really like the new design of the 2010 GT's. I like the way the SS looks and I really like the LS3 engine, even though it does weigh a lot. But its a muscle car and is not supposed to be light, even though GM could of made it a lil lighter Im sure with some mods or if you are fortunate enough to supercharge the SS that it would be transormed into a freak show with that big engine its rolling...
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I went through this firsthand when I was buying my 2010 GT.

I drove the 6 in the mustang and the camaro. I gotta tell you the v6 Camaro is a hell of a car. Smooth ride, fast and responsive. I does however, feel like there is a cushion between you and the car, and the visibility is terrible. The Camaro also feels like it is twice as big as the Mustang.

Needless to say, equally appointed, the V6 Camaro and the Mustang GT were almost the same price.

I went with the stang and I do not regret it at all.....
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But at the same time, i am wondering what they will do now that they are advertising the new "Tarus SHO" as a Mustang Killer at the car shows, saying why buy a mustang. UM....

Lets get the mustang up to 450 ish, with a V8 Echoboost engine. Then we can talk
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But at the same time, i am wondering what they will do now that they are advertising the new "Tarus SHO" as a Mustang Killer at the car shows, saying why buy a mustang. UM....

Lets get the mustang up to 450 ish, with a V8 Echoboost engine. Then we can talk
It's happening. They've made it pretty much official. The 5.0 is coming out (probably in 2010 sometime look for it mass produced in 2011) Good for 400 hp and nearly the same in torque. I may just have to upgrade to that when it hits dealers.

(Though it's quite easy and inexpensive to get 400 RWhp in my current 4.6)
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Handling and driver visibility are important to me, so I'd likely go with the Mustang.
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I got involved in this debate over on camaro5 and got slaughtered. Thread closed. A few days later i asked about superchargers for camaros and the thread was closed IMMEDIATELY, on the grounds that "its already been discussed".

Those guys refuse to consider ANYTHING other than 1) the difference between these two cars is nothing short of HUGE 2) They insist on ONLY considering the price of the Premium/track pack 34,000 mustang while seemingly stating that 31,000 camaros are plentyful and easy to find every where...ignoring the fact that a 27,000 base GT will likley be the faster as its the lightest of the bunch and STILL includes all sorts of suspension refinements even WITHOUT the track pack. and 3) a ton of "mustang sucks camaro is just plain bad-ass" logic. 4) Although the 05-09 Mustangs have long been acceptable as a 0-60 in 5.1 car..the new 2010 with cold air intake, tweaked exhaust and gearing can NOT be a 5.0 or 4.9 second unless they had a "ringer" in the tests.........well that is what they are saying

Anyway, here ya go...

Consumer Report says Mustang better than Camaro: http://www.autoblog.com/2009/09/01/chevy-camaro-and-dodge-challenger-better-than-fords-mustang-i/
Camaro 4 star frontal crash rating/mustang 5 star frontal crash rating: http://wot.motortrend.com/6570677/auto-news/chevy-camaro-gets-4-star-crash-test-rating-short-of-mustangs-5-star-rating/index.html
Recommended fuel for camaro (and challenger) is UNLEADED PREMIUM…while the Mustang runs happily on the recommended UNLEAD REGULAR. http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/112_0903_2010_chevrolet_camaro_ss_vs_2009_dodge_ch allenger_rt_vs_2010_ford_mustang_gt/specs_and_road_test_data.html
Camaro is not a drivers car…the mustang is. Almost universally, every review I have read that isn’t ONLY looking at straight line performance, picks the Mustang ahead of either the Camaro or the Challenger:
. “In this company, the steering trumps—it’s fast, direct, and, though still a bit isolated, far more naturally weighted than that of the other two” Car and Driver.
Angus MacKenzie: The best steering in an American car. Ever. Direct, linear, good feel. Astounding turn-in response -- helped in no small way by the PZero tires. Superb pedal placement -- brake and clutch and gas pedals nicely aligned; heel-and-toe downshifts a cinch. Five-speed manual lighter, crisper shift than Tremec 6060 in the other two. Motor trend.
Ed Loh: The biggest surprise here. I thought the Camaro would leave the Mustang in a ditch by the side of the road, but I was genuinely surprised at how capable the Mustang is. Its long and meaty third gear sends the car roaring up Sunrise Highway. Similar to the Camaro, though the downhill is where the Mustang begins to separate itself. Sharper more communicative steering (a result of that Track Pack?) gives the Mustang more confidence through corners. Motor Trend
I could post 10 more just like this but you get the point.
I keep seeing fan boy posts saying “the SS camaro just blows away the mustang gt”…nothing could be further from the truth. The performance of the camaro would be “photo finish” compared to a mustang GT if anything. The performance advantage of a camaro SS over a mustang GT is nothing short of marginal at best. See below:’
Acceleration to mph:
0-30 2.0/2.2 sec** camaro 1.9 sec/mustang
0-40 2.7/3.0** camaro 2.9 sec/mustang
0-50 3.6/3.9** camaro 3.8 sec/mustang
0-60 4.7/5.1** camaro 5.1 sec/mustang

Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/112_0903_2010_chevrolet_camaro_ss_vs_2009_dodge_ch allenger_rt_vs_2010_ford_mustang_gt/specs_and_road_test_data.html#ixzz0W0t2vKWz
There are 2 sets of times for the Camaro…using the automated throttle system and one just using a driver skill for good measure….either way the Mustang is actually FASTER to 30mph…no surprise there considering the weight.
Can someone BESIDES a fan boy explain to me how these times constitute “blowing away”…???


Camaro has less rear passenger room:
Camaro, COMPLETELY non functional JOKE of a trunk. My girl friend and I decided to take the new mustang to the mountains for the weekend last weekend. I managed to get no less than 2 full size rolling suitcases, 2 full size toiletry bags, 2 lap tops, a back pack, a dirty clothes bag full of clothes, a car wash kit, 2 beach towels, 2 full size heavy coats, a pool stick, 2 bowling ball bags with bowling balls in them, and 2 umbrellas in the trunk NO PROBLEM….. try that with ANY OF THE COMPETITING MUSCLE CARS AND ONLY the challenger would measure up. Nit picky??? Yes, until you and YOUR girl friend decide to take the camaro to the mountains and you end up in the drive way arguing for an hour because nothing will fit….then get back to me about how “nit picky” this issue is.
Camaro, very poor visibility/HUGE blind spots
Camaro, untested plat form. Will likely have a significantly higher maintenance cost out of pocket.
Camaro price currently about 25% higher than comparable equipped mustang, haven’t seen them cheaper than in the upper 30s (don’t know WHERE you guys are finding these in the low 20’s as I have visited 5 or 6 dealerships in the south east and have not seen any for that price) while I got mustang for 27k out the door.
Camaro….have to exit the vehicle when pulling up to a bank ATM or gated community style call center to reach the key pads. Believe me, I am not making this up…the side window opening is comparable to my RX8 and it is ridiculous in these situations.
Mustang wins in the steering and skip pad categories basically ties in the handling department.
Not as fast but and has less horsepower per pound but you get much more performance per dollar, which is basically where it really counts when you are dealing with such close competition.
In 0-60 performance, the mustang is basically 8% slower or rather then mustang gives you 92% of the camaros performance. 4.6 versus 5.0
In costs the cheapest mustang gt is basically 23% cheaper than the cheapest Camaro SS I have seen for sale. (27k versus 35k), or rather the camaro is 23% more expensive. 27k versus 35k
So with a camaro you get +8% performance for +23% the cost. I will concede that in the future this is when the dealers stop screwing the customers this is likely to be more like 8% more performance for 10% more costs which is VERY reasonable….however, cost per performance being near equal at that cost….I don’t know that I’d be willing to give up a usable trunk and actual traffic visibility for “bragging rights” of the fastest 0-60…. Or .5 second faster ¼ mile.
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