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Default Stock 2011 5.0 Throttle Body, Should I Upgrade ?

Considering putting a larger after-market throttle body on my 2011 5.0 with the stock intake. Reading posts from a few months back others were wondering if adding the larger 85 or 90.0 mm aftermarkets like BBK or Ford Racing 90 mm would really improve performance. That was based on the fact that the intake itself was approx. 82.7 from what I read. Even the Boss Intake seemed to only be 82.9. So would it even make a difference?
Question is, has anyone done the mod and if so have you seen a noticeable increase in performance? If so please describe the improvement and what aftermarket TB you used.

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I havent done it but from what I've read an aftermarket TB on non FI has next to no gains. I would look to spend the money elsewhere.
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I havent done it but from what I've read an aftermarket TB on non FI has next to no gains. I would look to spend the money elsewhere.
Dang beat me to what I was gonna say. But my brother tried a bbk to his new 5.0 and didnt do a thing except sound a little cooler
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If you get one, go with Accufab, they make the best...it helped my Cobra, but your car is "drive by wire" so no telling the outcome
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A throttle body would not be anywhere near the top of my mod list on a stock 5.0. If I were going to replace it, it would be the Accufab 85mm.

Here is Matt DaSilva's independent testing of the Accufab on his stock longblock 5.0 with Boss intake, JLT CAI, Kooks headers, and custom DaSilva tune;

...btw, he did a 10.84 @ 124mph before the throttle body...

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Zero changes made to the tune for the throttle body.
 
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Grimace, I was going to point him to that thread on s197 but you beat me to it. I would buy one if I could justify spending more money on mods right now but I can't due to work related stuff.
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So just by switching out the throttle body he is making 20 more rwhp at 4750 rpm and making 23 rwtq at 5k rpm? Am I understanding that correctly? If so i'll be buying one tomorrow cause I have the same mods besides the throttle body.
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crazy numbers. im barley topping 400's was also thinking about throttle body, didnt think it would do much for me
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Considering putting a larger after-market throttle body on my 2011 5.0 with the stock intake. Reading posts from a few months back others were wondering if adding the larger 85 or 90.0 mm aftermarkets like BBK or Ford Racing 90 mm would really improve performance. That was based on the fact that the intake itself was approx. 82.7 from what I read. Even the Boss Intake seemed to only be 82.9. So would it even make a difference?
Question is, has anyone done the mod and if so have you seen a noticeable increase in performance? If so please describe the improvement and what aftermarket TB you used.

Thanks in advance
Ford Racing says if you install the larger TB you MUST have a custom tune.
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numbers wont tell the full story. A larger throttle body should greatly increase throttle response. seat of the pants will feel like more.
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Thanks everyone.. overall it looks like not the best bang for the buck..I am already running a 93 Brenspeed tune & Steeda CAI and do have plenty of throttle response so I don't think theres much to be gained for my car..

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Thanks everyone.. overall it looks like not the best bang for the buck..I am already running a 93 Brenspeed tune & Steeda CAI and do have plenty of throttle response so I don't think theres much to be gained for my car..

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yeah I think your good. Unless you run out of parts to buy and just feeling like installing another item....I would pick something else up
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I havent done it but from what I've read an aftermarket TB on non FI has next to no gains. I would look to spend the money elsewhere.
^^ This is the same thing my tuner told me.
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I put one on the Boss, I didn't notice anything but that doesn't mean a lot as well... I have never had my butt dyno verified for accuracy...
Now, with a change in CAI, I added the Steeda Boss CAI, it is 101mm MAF housing compared to almost 98 percent of other CAI that require a tune, 95mm… Steeda did tune for the 85mm TB as well…
Did it add, who knows as before… It does sound badass when I ramp on it and it looks really cool when I open the hood… For those of you that never open your hood even to check the oil… this is one mod you should pass on…
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