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My suspension build list... PLEASE pick apart!

I've been going back and forth with a ton of different options, brands, combinations, and have been trying to figure this out for months now. Here we go... I wont be doing auto cross, maybe taking the car occasionally to the strip, but it will be my DD. I can't not stand any type of squeaks or noises. I don't mind a harsh ride so that's not an issue. Want a slight drop 1"-1.5". Basically I want everything to work perfectly, so if I'm missing something please let me know. Or if you recommend something else let me know and why. Thanks in advance!!!

Eibach Pro System Plus $950- springs, struts, shocks, swaybars

BMR Rear Lower Control Arms - Poly Bushings $150

BMR Rear Lower Control Arm Relocation Brackets $155

Maximum Motorsports Caster Camber Plates $325

Ford Racing GT500 Style Strut Mount Upgrade $110

Steeda Bumpsteer Kit $170

J&M Adjustable Panhard Rod $115

TOTAL= $1975

Again, I'm compulsive as ever and want to get it right the first time. I'm sure I haven't addressed something, not sure what. But if these is more info needed to help this process along just let me know. Everything is from AM, they have a military discount :hihi:

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Caster Camber Plates and the GT500 Strut mounts? You can go with one or the other. Not both at the same time.

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The only thing you will really need is a good alignment. With all of your power mods you will be fighting wheelspin if you are serious about auto-x, not to mention you likely won't fit any kind of class.



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Caster Camber Plates and the GT500 Strut mounts? You can go with one or the other. Not both at the same time.

Some CC plates require an additional isolator from the GT500 mounts.
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I've been going back and forth with a ton of different options, brands, combinations, and have been trying to figure this out for months now. Here we go... I wont be doing auto cross, maybe taking the car occasionally to the strip, but it will be my DD. I can't not stand any type of squeaks or noises. I don't mind a harsh ride so that's not an issue. Want a slight drop 1"-1.5". Basically I want everything to work perfectly, so if I'm missing something please let me know. Or if you recommend something else let me know and why. Thanks in advance!!!

Eibach Pro System Plus $950- springs, struts, shocks, swaybars

BMR Rear Lower Control Arms - Poly Bushings $150

BMR Rear Lower Control Arm Relocation Brackets $155

Maximum Motorsports Caster Camber Plates $325

Ford Racing GT500 Style Strut Mount Upgrade $110

Steeda Bumpsteer Kit $170

J&M Adjustable Panhard Rod $115

TOTAL= $1975

Again, I'm compulsive as ever and want to get it right the first time. I'm sure I haven't addressed something, not sure what. But if these is more info needed to help this process along just let me know. Everything is from AM, they have a military discount :hihi:
What about koni shocks
New springs
And sways

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I've been going back and forth with a ton of different options, brands, combinations, and have been trying to figure this out for months now. Here we go... I wont be doing auto cross, maybe taking the car occasionally to the strip, but it will be my DD. I can't not stand any type of squeaks or noises. I don't mind a harsh ride so that's not an issue. Want a slight drop 1"-1.5". Basically I want everything to work perfectly, so if I'm missing something please let me know. Or if you recommend something else let me know and why. Thanks in advance!!!

Eibach Pro System Plus $950- springs, struts, shocks, swaybars

BMR Rear Lower Control Arms - Poly Bushings $150

BMR Rear Lower Control Arm Relocation Brackets $155

Maximum Motorsports Caster Camber Plates $325

Ford Racing GT500 Style Strut Mount Upgrade $110

Steeda Bumpsteer Kit $170

J&M Adjustable Panhard Rod $115

TOTAL= $1975

Again, I'm compulsive as ever and want to get it right the first time. I'm sure I haven't addressed something, not sure what. But if these is more info needed to help this process along just let me know. Everything is from AM, they have a military discount :hihi:
If you are going to make this your DD, I suggest some adj. dampers just in case. Also, I heard that MM C&C plates do not fit the GT500 mounts. Sounds like a solid build overall. If you want better handling, I suggest getting the Whiteline Wattslink instead of the Panhard bar but its very expensive.

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How are BMR springs? I'v been debating between these and steeda ultralights myself.
Sounds like a solid suspension setup though op

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I'm personally on this whole watts link kick lately but that's just me. I get that it's a VERY expensive modification but so intriguing...
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The GT500 mounts WILL NOT FIT the 2011+ Eibach ProKit struts because they are shorter than the 05-10 struts they are intended for. I would suggest Steeda HD mounts. They replace the stock mount entirely AND have caster/camber control.

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Caster Camber Plates and the GT500 Strut mounts? You can go with one or the other. Not both at the same time.
You can, but you have to use the CC plate & struts for 05-10.

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That sounds like a good setup
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[QUOTE=Grimace427;3450057]The only thing you will really need is a good alignment. With all of your power mods you will be fighting wheelspin if you are serious about auto-x, not to mention you likely won't fit any kind of class.

I won't be doing any auto-x.

[QUOTE=mustangkid9234;3450073]What about koni shocks
New springs
And sways

I don't really know anything about Koni. I was going with the eibach system because the shocks where already tuned for the springs, and it comes with sway bars too. Assumed that if they make a kit that works well together, why not give it a shot.

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I've been going back and forth with a ton of different options, brands, combinations, and have been trying to figure this out for months now. Here we go... I wont be doing auto cross, maybe taking the car occasionally to the strip, but it will be my DD. I can't not stand any type of squeaks or noises. I don't mind a harsh ride so that's not an issue. Want a slight drop 1"-1.5". Basically I want everything to work perfectly, so if I'm missing something please let me know. Or if you recommend something else let me know and why. Thanks in advance!!!

Eibach Pro System Plus $950- springs, struts, shocks, swaybars

BMR Rear Lower Control Arms - Poly Bushings $150

BMR Rear Lower Control Arm Relocation Brackets $155

Maximum Motorsports Caster Camber Plates $325

Ford Racing GT500 Style Strut Mount Upgrade $110

Steeda Bumpsteer Kit $170

J&M Adjustable Panhard Rod $115

TOTAL= $1975

Again, I'm compulsive as ever and want to get it right the first time. I'm sure I haven't addressed something, not sure what. But if these is more info needed to help this process along just let me know. Everything is from AM, they have a military discount :hihi:

Most of that setup is pretty solid.

I'm using the Eibach springs on my car too, but with Koni Yellows and UPR control arms & PHB. It handles great.


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The Pro System Plus is a great value for the money, but keep in mind that the rear ant-roll bar that comes with the kit is non-adjustable. The Pro System without sway bars is about $400 less, so if you want the versatility of a rear adjustable anti-roll bar, you might consider a separate purchase. I personally feel that the factory sway bars are adequate for my driving style and I didn't want the added harshness that comes from beefier sway bars, especially on the pot hole ridden streets of Houston.

As for the quality of the shock & strut, they are a considerable upgrade over stock, but probably not as nice as Koni. The combination is very well tuned for each other with excellent weight transfer. I can fly over the road crown in a certain intersection on my commute that used to bottom out my front strut. However, the drop in the front is just a touch lower than I expected and if I'm not careful, I can ping my OTA pipes with the axle on harsh bumps.

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I've been going back and forth with a ton of different options, brands, combinations, and have been trying to figure this out for months now. Here we go... I wont be doing auto cross, maybe taking the car occasionally to the strip, but it will be my DD. I can't not stand any type of squeaks or noises. I don't mind a harsh ride so that's not an issue. Want a slight drop 1"-1.5". Basically I want everything to work perfectly, so if I'm missing something please let me know. Or if you recommend something else let me know and why. Thanks in advance!!!

Eibach Pro System Plus $950- springs, struts, shocks, swaybars

BMR Rear Lower Control Arms - Poly Bushings $150

BMR Rear Lower Control Arm Relocation Brackets $155

Maximum Motorsports Caster Camber Plates $325

Ford Racing GT500 Style Strut Mount Upgrade $110

Steeda Bumpsteer Kit $170

J&M Adjustable Panhard Rod $115

TOTAL= $1975

Again, I'm compulsive as ever and want to get it right the first time. I'm sure I haven't addressed something, not sure what. But if these is more info needed to help this process along just let me know. Everything is from AM, they have a military discount :hihi:
I think that is pretty solid.

As for the Panhard Bar, is that an aluminum bar? I highly recommend a steel panhard bar, as I have dealt with too many customers who have damaged the thread on the aluminum versions.

The Sway bars in the Eibach kit, are they adjustable both front and rear? What size are they, and are they hollow or solid? The reason I ask, is, for what you are looking to do with your car....I honestly do not feel like a set of sway bars is going to give you that great of a benefit.

Are the shocks and struts adjustable? If so, just rebound with a fixed compression/bump....or do they adjust both rebound and compression?

I also feel that the bumpsteer kit may not really be a "must" for this package, as well. My recommendation would be to do the other modifications first, then, if you experience excessive bumpsteer that bothers you, pull the trigger.

I often times see, and deal with, customers who take their suspension a little too far. Just a few modifications (less than what you have listed) can typically prodivde a very good boost inb performance and handling, and cost substantially less than what some may think.

If you have any questions about suspension, please feel free to ask me.

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I think that is pretty solid.

As for the Panhard Bar, is that an aluminum bar? I highly recommend a steel panhard bar, as I have dealt with too many customers who have damaged the thread on the aluminum versions.

The Sway bars in the Eibach kit, are they adjustable both front and rear? What size are they, and are they hollow or solid? The reason I ask, is, for what you are looking to do with your car....I honestly do not feel like a set of sway bars is going to give you that great of a benefit.

Are the shocks and struts adjustable? If so, just rebound with a fixed compression/bump....or do they adjust both rebound and compression?

I also feel that the bumpsteer kit may not really be a "must" for this package, as well. My recommendation would be to do the other modifications first, then, if you experience excessive bumpsteer that bothers you, pull the trigger.

I often times see, and deal with, customers who take their suspension a little too far. Just a few modifications (less than what you have listed) can typically prodivde a very good boost inb performance and handling, and cost substantially less than what some may think.

If you have any questions about suspension, please feel free to ask me.
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Lets say one was to go w/ BMR springs. Would there be any benefit in getting a bump-steer kit and taller ball joints with that amount of drop? What about a even more of a drop? On a '12 gt.
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