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Mustang's Answer to the Dodge SRT Demon?

So a weird thing happened tonight. My wife (who loves her 2014 GT) started talking to me about the new Dodge SRT Demon and it's specs. I really didn't know too much about it so I Googled it of course. I have to say it's impressive as a weekend track warrior (at least on paper, or screen).

After some reading, I question the car's ability to be a good daily driver. From what I've read so far, the thing seems to be totally in drag (pun intended).

I found myself making rationalizations as to why this wouldn't be a good car, and why the 2014 GT is much nicer to drive ANYWHERE as compared to this drag car. Was I wrong?

I suspect that a car that's totally speced for the Drag strip (comes without passenger seats front/back, drag radials, drag specific suspension, trans-brake, line-locks, advanced launch control, and on and on...) won't be a sporty pleasure car that you just jump in and drive 300-400 miles on occasion.

It can't be a great all-purpose car like a GT. Can it? What do you guys think?

I sure hope Ford offeres up a strong Mustang (SVT or otherwise) that steals it's thunder. I'm not a Dodge fan, I've always had bad luck with Chrysler/Dodge products but on paper this thing is a beast. It even uses a special mode on the track whereby the A/C refrigerant is repurposed to chill the intercooler and reduce IAT's by as much as 45°F.

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I found This:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...FMUtfEKygSz_mA

But I suspect that dealers or deep pocket collectors will find a way to snap up these cars well before the average joe can get one. There are only 300 cars for all of Canada, so that gives you some idea.


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Looks even more narrowly focused on drag racing than the H'cat. And less suitable overall for most any other kind of driving.

It's certainly an impressive car if drag racing is your central (only?) automotive interest (noting that the NHRA is going to require you to cage it in order to run with them). Square peg in a round hole if you like curves and corners (and I was really hoping that with those flares that this car was going to try the cornering thing for FCA, but I've heard that the front flares were so it could ship with four drag radials and two skinnies).


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The Demon's performance specs are pretty darn impressive. And it is top dog in horsepower bragging rights. But it will be too pricey for us average Joes, so it is just another expensive limited production car for rich guys like Jay Leno to add to their collections.

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They are simply following Ford but barely kept the car street legal:
2016 Ford Mustang Cobra Jet Revealed, Runs 8.0-Second Quarter Mile: Video

Ford still has bragging rights as to the fastest factory Muscle car.
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although more than I can pay for a toy I'll argue that it is amazing how much car you can buy for the $. We are living in a true golden age for cars.

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Some guy at my wife's work told her he ordered one for his wife (as a street car). I told her he was either lying or stupid. I just can't imagine anyone trying to DD this car.


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They are simply following Ford but barely kept the car street legal:
2016 Ford Mustang Cobra Jet Revealed, Runs 8.0-Second Quarter Mile: Video

Ford still has bragging rights as to the fastest factory Muscle car.
Nice... Love ❤️ that last bit of info.

It's all a money game.


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although more than I can pay for a toy I'll argue that it is amazing how much car you can buy for the $. We are living in a true golden age for cars.
MSRP was listed as $50k on the Demon. Doubtful one will be pulling alongside me at a red light though. I just don't see this as a serious street car. It lacks items needed for the strip, and isn't practical (in my mind) as a decent street driver.

Pretty sure it's not comfortable enough to take a trip in. Not for me anyway.


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We should have one of those sticky polls at the top of the forum sections.

Should your wife get a Demon?

I'll register the first YES vote. I would vote no if not for the fact that you are quite active on this forum site and that means we would get a really good and honest review of the vehicle from the 'husband of the primary driver' perspective. I would read every post on that one for sure!

Can anyone who lived through the joys of downtown cruising back in the day even comprehend the power of today's offerings? My second Corvette had a 'Greenwood Turbo' converted body and the L48 5.7L engine. A whopping 190 hp. (looked like 1000 hp) We felt untouchable.

This is a fun time to drive for sure. Even the luxury bracket in most brands offers a +/- 600 hp all wheel drive limo......what next?

The Demon! I wish you and your wife well in this.

Maybe if all the AFM members pony up a buck each you guys can do a real life trial that we can all share in. Again, I'm in.

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We should have one of those sticky polls at the top of the forum sections.

Should your wife get a Demon?

I'll register the first YES vote. I would vote no if not for the fact that you are quite active on this forum site and that means we would get a really good and honest review of the vehicle from the 'husband of the primary driver' perspective. I would read every post on that one for sure!

Can anyone who lived through the joys of downtown cruising back in the day even comprehend the power of today's offerings? My second Corvette had a 'Greenwood Turbo' converted body and the L48 5.7L engine. A whopping 190 hp. (looked like 1000 hp) We felt untouchable.

This is a fun time to drive for sure. Even the luxury bracket in most brands offers a +/- 600 hp all wheel drive limo......what next?

The Demon! I wish you and your wife well in this.

Maybe if all the AFM members pony up a buck each you guys can do a real life trial that we can all share in. Again, I'm in.

All the best.
Ha Ha Ha... She won't be getting one. It was never on the table. Just wanted to know what others think of this "Steet" car.


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The demon will not make a great daily driver, because it was never supposed to. To look at it that way is silly. If you buy a Demon, you want to drag race (or brag while being a NDMF).
If you want a crazy fast, enjoyable street car you get the hellcat, not the demon.

I applaud Dodge for having the balls to make a one-trick pony. Imagine how much better the gt350 could have been on the track if they weren't also trying to sell it as a good all-round car.
Ford won't steal the thunder from the Demon unless they make what is basically a street legal cobrajet. No gt500 is going to come close because it will never be a dedicated drag car.
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I wonder if it will be a true track car like the advertise or wonder if it will be a bust like the 2013 Boss 302 I have or the 2015+ GT350's where Ford advertised them as a all out track ready car, but neither backed that up when it came time to. For example the 2012-2013 Boss 302's had clutch and rear end issues (Both of which my 2013 had.) and of course the new class action law suit for the GT350 about trans over heating... I guess time will tell...

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I wonder if it will be a true track car like the advertise or wonder if it will be a bust like the 2013 Boss 302 I have or the 2015+ GT350's where Ford advertised them as a all out track ready car, but neither backed that up when it came time to. For example the 2012-2013 Boss 302's had clutch and rear end issues (Both of which my 2013 had.) and of course the new class action law suit for the GT350 about trans over heating... I guess time will tell...

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At this point, I think it's a bragging rights car. It's not NHRA legal as is, and although it's street legal, it's not a good fit as a street car, as noldevin pointed out.

The issues you've had with the Boss aren't unique to that car, or even to Ford in general. I know plenty of Boss owners who haven't had those issues. When you push any car to higher performance, parts are being stressed exponentially greater & things are gonna go wrong.

This is why I'm amazed that the Demon is sold as a street car. I kinda feel like it's not a great street car or great drag car as sold. If the target buyer is a drag strip racer, then finish it. Give it a cage, give it fire suppression, etc... If it's a powerful street car.... Well, you see my point.

Could I buy a couple of these? Sure, but it doesn't seem like a fun street car. At some point one realizes you can always beat the guy next door, you just have to spend more money. That's nothing I'm even remotely interested in. Less than 24hrs. have passed since I even noticed the car & I've already lost interest. I'm not a racer, but I love muscle cars... I doubt this would give me many smiles unless I were on a drag strip. Even then, there are plenty of modified "Street" cars that are more impressive at the track (because they are street in name only).

I now have a clearer picture of the car (I think). It's a car I can watch at the track, but not something I would enjoy on the street.



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