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Bravo to snow-Stangs

We received under an inch of snow in the Detroit area overnight. As I made my way cautiously to the office in my Explorer Sport with AWD I smiled at the several brave Mustang drivers making their way through slippery conditions.

I drove my 90 LX 5.0 through the snow when I was 19 but Im not sure Id be as confident today.

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I have done it and still do it when I don't have a "better" winter car available.

It really isn't that bad, especially for those of us who learned to drive on cars with rear wheel drive, no traction control, no ABS, and no limited slip differential - basically, one-rear-wheel-drive.

Throttle control is key of course -- go easy and smooth and it's not much different from any other car. Good snow tires help a LOT, and for best results they should be narrow, not wide. Right now I have a set of 255 Blizzaks on my 2010 and that is really too wide, 235 or narrower would be better. (got the tires with a set of wheels for $400 so I wasn't too choosey)

Rear wheel drive is a lot more fun than front wheel drive, if you want to play in the snow a little. But you have to turn off the traction and stability control, those dang nannies wouldn't let me do a donut if I tried.

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The last time I drove a Mustang in snow it was a 1972 302 2v with bias-ply 70's on the back and bias-ply 78's on the front. I could barely drive up the incline from the road to a drive way.
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I still do it as I don't have a second vehicle. Most day's if it's snowing bad over night I'll work from home so I don't have to drive in the snow although I did purchase snow wheels and tires as an insurance policy if I'm already at work and it decides to snow. But I agree with JBert, we didn't have all this ABS, traction/stability control growing up so we learned in the trenches how to control our rear wheel drives.
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It's less about the car than it is about the tires. Use good winter tires and it is a lot less dangerous. The risk can never be eliminated, obviously, but it can be lowered substantially with good tires.
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I still do it as I don't have a second vehicle. Most day's if it's snowing bad over night I'll work from home so I don't have to drive in the snow although I did purchase snow wheels and tires as an insurance policy if I'm already at work and it decides to snow. But I agree with JBert, we didn't have all this ABS, traction/stability control growing up so we learned in the trenches how to control our rear wheel drives.

Wait did I understand right that you store your snow tires/wheels at your work? ha

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We received under an inch of snow in the Detroit area overnight. As I made my way cautiously to the office in my Explorer Sport with AWD I smiled at the several brave Mustang drivers making their way through slippery conditions.

I drove my 90 LX 5.0 through the snow when I was 19 but Im not sure Id be as confident today.

Tip of the hat to everyone who does it!


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Back when we were driving our Fox Body Mustangs, they didn't have the power of the 2011+ unless you cranked up the power with a blower. My '87 had 225hp.

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Back when we were driving our Fox Body Mustangs, they didn't have the power of the 2011+ unless you cranked up the power with a blower. My '87 had 225hp.



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Yes, I also remember my 90 Fox Body as rated with much less hp than my current S197. Unfortunately, my younger self had a significant common-sense deficit and this more than offset the lower power level.

I enjoyed driving RWD without TC, and feathering the throttle to maintain control was a lot of fun. Winter tires were not on my radar, and I relied mostly on used rubber (wide as I could fit on my rims) and it was generally quite bald.

I remember twice getting stuck on essentially pavement (minimal snow/ice) with a slight incline. Once in dip of a gas station parking lot where I had to get a slight push just to get out of the dip. Another time I tried to get up the side of a railway crossing and couldnt get any traction. I eventually had to back up, turn around, u-turn a block away and get a running start.

I guess one difference was I didnt seem to have important places to be back then so the risky drive was okay.


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S197s are way better in the snow than the 89 fox body I had. My 2007 was done in by some black ice on the highway, but I have a set of snow tires for my 2011.

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I live in Florida. Back in the day, in Maryland and Virginia, I had a 1988 5.0 LX notch. The trick with that thing was to drift it EVERYWHERE in the snow. It didn't really give me an alternative. Of course, that light little box would go sideways at 3 mph in 1 inch of snow, so I spent a lot of time tooling around the neighborhood looking like a super slo-mo drifter. BUT - IT WAS VERY EASY TO CONTROL IN THE SIDEWAYS CONFIGURATION, SNOW OR NOT.

I ran it on the original Goodyear Gatorbacks for three years, winter and summer. They sucked in any conditions except bone dry 80 deg or higher.


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My last Winter in Maryland made me move to Florida.

Two 25+ inch snow storms in 4 days. This is storm #1 which we called Snowmageddon up there. This one was 27" on the deck lid. Until I started digging, the snow went horizontal from the loop in my stair railing to over my D side mirror. When I first opened the garage door. there was a waist high drift up against where the door had been about half way across my driveway, and didn't taper off until I dug past the front wheels. By the way, NEVER buy a garage townhouse in snow country. No place to put what comes out of the driveway.
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S197s are way better in the snow than the 89 fox body I had. My 2007 was done in by some black ice on the highway, but I have a set of snow tires for my 2011.
True dat. See post #10. But nothing will protect you from black ice. My brother's Silverado 4x4 2500 went off the road at 20 mph backwards in 4wd on black Ice.
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I've got a buddy that drives his '12 V6 year round as his DD. I do the maintenance on his and his wife's vehicles and every spring/fall we swap between summers and snows. I've driven it to his place after an oil change on snow covered roads before and I was surprised how well it handled it. I couldn't do it but he makes it work, lol.

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My ride was a DD up until a year ago. Now I have a company car.
I drove my 08 in heavy snow storms where you couldn't tell where the road ends and the media begins.
I will admit that my commute had no hills. Hills and rear wheel drive don't get along!!!
Like Jbert said about experience, I grew up in NE PA. driving my dad's 72 Nova (3 on the floor)in much worse conditions than I've experienced in Maryland.

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With that said^^^, don't put ALL your faith in tire selection. You'll end up with a false sense of security.
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I don't get any snow at my elevation, but I don't live very far from California's Sierra Nevada Mountains. I always take my traction control devices if I need to go into the snow in my Mustang. I use Spikes-Spider Sport model. They only take about a minute to put on and take off.



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