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Unread 05-06-2012   #46 (permalink)
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V6 vs. V8? Auto vs. manual? Cloth vs. leather? Blah, blah, blah! :p

Configuration choices exist for the same reason that color choices do: to broaden appeal and increase sales. Ford could never maintain the line if all they built were purple Mustangs with V8s with automatic transmissions.

Besides, the six-cylinder Mustang has been with us since the beginning. Its current incarnation is easily the best ever and can blow right by many of the "muscular" V8s of yesteryear.
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The Mustang's niche going back to '64 has been an affordable, fun to drive, sporty (not 'sports') car that seats 4. The originals were built on the Falcon chassis, Ford's Camry of the 60's - including the V8's, GTs, and Shelby's.

That's the definition of a Pony car. Some ponies are Muscle cars, some are not. 2011+ is the blurriest line between the 2 Ford has ever produced, and many of us responded by buying V6's.

Some buyers need a lower purchase price. Some lower cost of ownership via higher MPGs and lower insurance. Some bought the V6 for better handling. Some bought the V8 to win at the track or on the on-ramp, or to hear the throaty rumble.

Ford makes a car called Mustang that allows people with vastly different reasons for buying a car to end up in one model. We all bought the original and best Pony car ever made.



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Excellent point, considering THE VERY FIRST PONY WAS AN I6
I know all about the mustang history thanks, but still IMO there shouldn't be a v6 muscle car.


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I know all about the mustang history thanks, but still IMO there shouldn't be a v6 muscle car.


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I am inclined to feel the same way but something tells me you and me might not be sitting in our GT's if it wasn't for Ford also making/selling the V6...
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Don't mean to piss in your cheerios but I daily drive/commute my GT in SF/Bay Area traffic each day and always find a good use for the extra power.
Yeah I was off the mark on that comment, especially considering I have a few mods that squeeze a bit more power out of the V6.
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I know all about the mustang history thanks, but still IMO there shouldn't be a v6 muscle car.


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Well actually, a V6 isn't considered a muscle car. And why do you think there shouldn't be a V6 mustang? If there wasn't, your mustang would more then likely still have the old 4.6 with 300 hp.
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Even the V8 isn't a muscle car, it's a pony car :p
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some interesting comparison videos for those debating 3.7 vs 5.0. Cars stock for stock if you don't know how to drive and the 3.7 driver does you might get embarrassed, if both driver know what their doing and have similar gearing about .7tenths of a second difference for a base-base msrp difference of $7,000+
Modded vs modded eh and the gt DOES NOT cost only $4,000 more base-base or even optioning them the same.
An interesting article was that motor trend 3.7 perf pack vs a brembo pack car.
Despite hitting the limiter for over fifteen seconds a lap,
the v6 was only two seconds behind the 5.0







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The Mustang's niche going back to '64 has been an affordable, fun to drive, sporty (not 'sports') car that seats 4. The originals were built on the Falcon chassis, Ford's Camry of the 60's - including the V8's, GTs, and Shelby's.

That's the definition of a Pony car. Some ponies are Muscle cars, some are not. 2011+ is the blurriest line between the 2 Ford has ever produced, and many of us responded by buying V6's.

Some buyers need a lower purchase price. Some lower cost of ownership via higher MPGs and lower insurance. Some bought the V6 for better handling. Some bought the V8 to win at the track or on the on-ramp, or to hear the throaty rumble.

Ford makes a car called Mustang that allows people with vastly different reasons for buying a car to end up in one model. We all bought the original and best Pony car ever made.



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Yep. They are all mustangs in the end.

EDIT and yea the 4k price difference I was using the 22k number they put out (which was probably a premuim) versus what I paid for my base which was 27k but they had one on the lot with no options (mine had 3.73 only) for 26k
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The Mustang's niche going back to '64 has been an affordable, fun to drive, sporty (not 'sports') car that seats 4. The originals were built on the Falcon chassis, Ford's Camry of the 60's - including the V8's, GTs, and Shelby's.

That's the definition of a Pony car. Some ponies are Muscle cars, some are not. 2011+ is the blurriest line between the 2 Ford has ever produced, and many of us responded by buying V6's.

Some buyers need a lower purchase price. Some lower cost of ownership via higher MPGs and lower insurance. Some bought the V6 for better handling. Some bought the V8 to win at the track or on the on-ramp, or to hear the throaty rumble.

Ford makes a car called Mustang that allows people with vastly different reasons for buying a car to end up in one model. We all bought the original and best Pony car ever made.



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Probably the best post in this thread.
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Excellent post, but people still make ignorant arguments on what a muscle/Pony car is supposed to be.
Inaccurate post, because a pony car could be a muscle car but a muscle car does not have to be a pony car.
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some interesting comparison videos for those debating 3.7 vs 5.0.
Seriously, putting up vids of V6's beating V8's is pointless. Because people could also post vids of stock VW Jetta's beating 11+ 300 hp V6's.

See what I mean?

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Modded vs modded eh and the gt DOES NOT cost only $4,000 more base-base or even optioning them the same.
There was a 6.3k diff in sticker price between my base 11 V6 auto and my base stick 12 5.0 Stang. But with rebates, I paid 28k for my 5.0 ...

Both cars are great values for their respective performance categories, why don't we just let it go at that.
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Not a ton on the road besides the GT500, Corvette, Viper. All the other ones are Euro cars and exotics that cost tons more than a Mustang.
You seem to have forgotten the Boss 302...
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Exactly, the video description says it clearly: 2013 Mustang GT 5.0L with MT82 vs. 2013 V6 Mustang convertible with stock automatic transmission

This would be the maximum difference you can have between stock GT and stock V6

Honestly, a stock V6 vert auto is not a car that I would bring to the track at all (and I have one, so I know what I'm saying ). You need at least a race tune and get rid of the stock tyres, to have a proper launch.

Until then, I'm having a lot of fun with a great car, having the best performance for its class, great mpg, cool look and style.

Not everyone wants to bring his car to a track.
Right there with you my friend. I would never take my car to a track, no need to race it, i just love to drive it. And, when you only slightly break the speed limit, the whole world is my track! Oh yeah, and my road trips cost a lot less at 28+ mpg.
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Right there with you my friend. I would never take my car to a track, no need to race it, i just love to drive it. And, when you only slightly break the speed limit, the whole world is my track! Oh yeah, and my road trips cost a lot less at 28+ mpg.
Yeah, a whole $0.62* less than the 27.7 mpg road trip last week in my 5.0?

*4.8 miles difference over a 16 gallon tank at $3.569 (only use 93)=$0.62

I'll take the 100 ponies and call it good

Relax though, not bashing the 6, I just had to get that out there:smoke:
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