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Default Turbo system for 2011 Mustang V6

Does anyone know if there is a turbo system in the works for our mustang, and if so, who makes it and when will it be available?? Id be more likely to get a turbo system, preferably twin turbo, for my mustang than going for a procharger system just because as far as i know it is a better system. Could be wrong.
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Not currently.

Turbo better than SC? Not necesscarily.
Turbo will be more expensive, complex and cost much more to install and tune.

Being that this is a new engine there's not going to be large aftermarket for a year or longer but rest assure that if a kit was in the works or on the market there'd be a thread about it.

I don't think we're going to see a lof ot competition in the FI market for a while though. These cars are new and most people get the base V6 for economy and want to keep their warranty intact. Also most people that bought a base couldn't afford a GT so there not likely to have the funds to do an expensive upgrade like turbo/supercharging.
If you guys are serious about FI then fork out some cash and the companies will start listening.
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STS is still looking for a guinea pig, they'll take your car, develope their kit with it and give it back to you with it installed. All for the paultry sum of $6K...
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That's a pretty damn good deal actually. There's your answer OP, put your money where your mouth is and help out the community by being the development car.

What it comes down to is a "money talks BS walks" kind of deal. No company is going to spend tens of thousands developing a kit for 5 people.
I gotta wonder just how many of these guys driving base V6s are actually serious about going FI or if they're just talking noise. Not to ape BadSector but if all these people have $5 to 10k to spend why aren't they driving GTs?
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I may hafta look into that. I got the V6 cause i didnt want to have to shell out the extra money for the V8. I traded in a truck for the V6, and when i did i thought, "holy hell!! this thing is plenty fast for me!!"" now im used to it and wanting more lol. I may be coming into more money soon so ill either be F/I or trading it in for a V8 or some other high end car.
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Maybe buy a universal kit and find a shop that will be willing to install and tune it for you? Why not? Might cost about the same and you wouldn't be waiting forever, for someone to make one specifically for us. Look for a universal that will put down 150 HP or less to the rear wheels. I don't say more because who knows what might happen? A universal would be risky enough unless your local shop REALLY knows their way around turbos and Mustangs. I'd do it, but I'm Daddy No-Bucks.
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well i definitely dont want to go overboard and fry the motor. But i think a twin turbo V6 would be cool. Havent seen or heard of one. But it would be cheaper and more reliable to just go with a GT or trade it in on something else ridiculous. But a TT V6 just sounds cool...who knows, if i get the money im lookin for i could afford something in an entirely different price range all together.
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It's no mystery to a lot of folks on this forum that I like the idea of squeezing this 6's guts for all it can put out. I'm firmly with you on that. And in the same boat too. I miss the G-force of real torque. We just don't have it where it's the most fun...at the BOTTOM! Nothing in the world wrong with saving your bucks and getting what you really want, whether it's a GT or forced air for your 6.
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ehh...I just want another 50 HP and 50 FT LBs of TQ. Id be happy with that in this car lol. I just dont think its gonna happen.
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ehh...I just want another 50 HP and 50 FT LBs of TQ. Id be happy with that in this car lol. I just dont think its gonna happen.
HP yes: a combination of a Tune, CAI or K&N Drop-In, long tube headers, performance cats/mufflers/pipes (or delete kits of one or all), aluminum driveshaft and whatever other bolt-ons come available could reasonably push close to 50 more HP to your rear wheels, even if it's just a matter of getting some of the existing HP back there, as in the case of the driveshaft and some suspension and tire/wheel or rear gear upgrades.

I don't think a 50 HP increase (to the rear wheels) is reaching for the stars, as a tune/CAI/LT/DS/gear combo should get you about 30 (unfortunately we don't have any dyno results for full LT/exhaust upgrades, so this is mostly speculation). Torque, on the other hand, looks like it might be a trick and a half without forced induction or expensive internal mods that sadly are not available yet.

Either way, it's going to take time. Nickel and dime minor mods over time don't hurt as bad as one-time major purchases (as in the Procharger SC), but they're still plenty of fun.
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I am still waiting for someone to steal the manifolds and turbos off of an ecoboost and use those as a starting point. There has got to be an aftermarket variable turbo controller out there in the aftermarket somewhere. That would be a convenient way to do it, because you are eliminating the need to pipe the exhaust to the headers. Then you would just need some down pipes, intercooler, and cold side plumbing.
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ehh...I just want another 50 HP and 50 FT LBs of TQ. Id be happy with that in this car lol. I just dont think its gonna happen.
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I don't think a 50 HP increase (to the rear wheels) is reaching for the stars, as a tune/CAI/LT/DS/gear combo should get you about 30 (unfortunately we don't have any dyno results for full LT/exhaust upgrades, so this is mostly speculation). Torque, on the other hand, looks like it might be a trick and a half without forced induction or expensive internal mods that sadly are not available yet.
I don't think it's reaching for the stars either. I'd bet my left one that you would be safely over 50 hp/50 lb-ft tq if you did the following.
  • Bama Tune - 15 hp
  • Catback - 10 hp
  • CAI - 10-15 hp
  • LT Headers/X-Pipe - 25-30 hp predicted

60-70 hp to the wheels if the LT swap is as potent as everyone keeps estimating. On top of that if you go with 3.73's or 4.10's you'll pick up a good deal of tq at the wheels.
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LT Headers/X-Pipe - 25-30 hp predicted
I read somewhere on here that Borla's long tubes and off road x-pipe with the cat-back made 45 hp.
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I'm not as optimistic as some of you guys.
Modern NA engines are just about as efficient as can be from the factory. They aren't leaving 50hp on the table that can be stroked out with a carb and cam upgrade.

I think a bolted 3.7 with headers, full exhaust, intake and a tune could break 300whp but I don't think these motors have much more than that in them without doing headwork, cams or boost and ruining the drivability and reliability.
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I read somewhere on here that Borla's long tubes and off road x-pipe with the cat-back made 45 hp.
Yes that was a post by David Borla and he said 15 hp for their catback. I think the dyno showed catback alone at 10hp. I believe that Chris from AM is right with his prediction that the benefit with a lot of these bolt-ons wont be fully realized until you build the whole system intake to tailpipe. If Borla can pick up 45 with LT headers, x-pipe and a cack, I'm pretty sure its safe to assume you'd be tacking on 20-30 with the tune and CAI. I plan to take a couple runs on a local Dynojet in April. I know people would much rather see a before and after but I'm no about to pull everything off and reinstall parts just for the comparison. I simply want to have an idea of where I'm at with the mods I have so far. Basically everything I've mentioned minus the headers.

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We'll have dyno charts available soon as well but informally I can tell you that we saw about a 15 HP and torque increase with our cat-backs and another 31 HP and torque increase with our long tube headers (which will be available soon but are for off road use only). So there's an increase of over 45 HP with the header back system and about a 15 HP increase with just the cat-backs.

The cat-backs are emissions legal but the long tube headers are for off road use only.

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