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I was wondering if any of you have experienced the following phenomenon: You shift into a gear, lets say 1st or 2nd or 3rd and the shifter "feels" to be in gear... when in reality it is like 3/4 of the way in. It got past the "first" click, but stopped right before the "second" click. It feels as if IT IS in gear, when in reality it is not.
You know what really "Grinds My Gears?", Grinding my gears... which is something I would like to avoid.
Luckily I haven't experienced this phenomenon during driving .
I am just wondering if I am alone on this, or if anyone has been duped into thinking they were in "gear" when they were really not.
Yeah, this happens to me only in 1st and 5th. But it's not restricted to the MT-82, pretty much every car I've owned that was stick did this with the possible exception of my Mk 4 Jetta. Even then...
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Yeah, this happens to me only in 1st and 5th. But it's not restricted to the MT-82, pretty much every car I've owned that was stick did this with the possible exception of my Mk 4 Jetta. Even then...
Did you ever end up grinding it?
I also did a little searching, and the term most people use ... is getting "locked out", though I thought that meant... not even being able to enter the gear...
It is tough to tell 3/4 and fully engaged when you are busy driving in daily traffic. I am afraid I will grind it, not because I am locked out, but because I won't notice I am locked out... until it is too late
I do not know how much abuse these MT-82s can take.
I also did a little searching, and the term most people use ... is getting "locked out", though I thought that meant... not even being able to enter the gear...
It is tough to tell 3/4 and fully engaged when you are busy driving in daily traffic. I am afraid I will grind it, not because I am locked out, but because I won't notice I am locked out... until it is too late
I do not know how much abuse these MT-82s can take.
Thank you for the reply.
Never ground in 1st, but I ground a lot in 5th a lot. I'm more deliberate with my shifts now so I don't have the problem anymore and when my tranny is warmed up its smooth anyway.
I wouldn't call this "locked out" so much as "not fully engaging", locked out is when the gate gives you the finger entirely, which happens as well.
If I were you I would just be a little easier with the shifts like me.
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I was wondering if any of you have experienced the following phenomenon: You shift into a gear, lets say 1st or 2nd or 3rd and the shifter "feels" to be in gear... when in reality it is like 3/4 of the way in. It got past the "first" click, but stopped right before the "second" click. It feels as if IT IS in gear, when in reality it is not.
You know what really "Grinds My Gears?", Grinding my gears... which is something I would like to avoid.
Luckily I haven't experienced this phenomenon during driving .
I am just wondering if I am alone on this, or if anyone has been duped into thinking they were in "gear" when they were really not.
Thank you
P.S. MT-82
How many miles. And yea this happens to me also just go in and out a few times and it gets better and i can sure tell and one time i started and the shifter popped out lol
At 16.5 miles it.is starting to loosen up real nice
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How many miles. And yea this happens to me also just go in and out a few times and it gets better and i can sure tell and one time i started and the shifter popped out lol
At 16.5 miles it.is starting to loosen up real nice
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Mine only has about 1500 miles on it.
Is loosening up better? You mean it popped out of 1st after already being fully engaged?! Ugh... now I have to watch out for that? =/ great!
So can anyone tell me... how much "grinding" a transmission can take?
I don't want to experience it... ever... I think I will need a fresh change of underwear... I have heard the noise in videos to get an idea of what you all have mentioned.
Should I take it straight to the dealership after a "grind"?
Never ground in 1st, but I ground a lot in 5th a lot. I'm more deliberate with my shifts now so I don't have the problem anymore and when my tranny is warmed up its smooth anyway.
I wouldn't call this "locked out" so much as "not fully engaging", locked out is when the gate gives you the finger entirely, which happens as well.
If I were you I would just be a little easier with the shifts like me.
I have never had the tranny give me the finger... not yet!
I don't power shift. This is just when the car is warming up. I go through the gears for muscle memory. I am concerned, that one day I am going to slow down from 5th or 4th, need to go into 2nd and "GRIND". Not because I didn't shift, but because the gears did not "fully engage"...and I thought they "did" ... ugh ...
It is such a slight difference...which really sucks... I rather get fully locked out... than experience the gear "not fully engaging" ... at least that way I know to double clutch and go through neutral... though with gears "not fully engaging"... I risk grinding gears...
How many times have you Grinded your gears thus far?
Do you notice a difference in terms of engagement now?
Fire, my buddies car did this more B4 he put in the MGW...I don't think it has done it since. It was only 1st and as you say it would only go in 1/2 way and sometimes pop-out. The lockout in most peoples cases seems to be differant and will most often happen if you fail to use the centering springs ie when going from 1 to 2 you need to put pressure on the shifter keeping it to the left or it can end up in no mans lans between 2/3. Also when going from 2 to 3 you need to not aim for 3 just push the shifter forward, the springs will guide it into 3 for you. The shifter will go into 3/4 plane by itself. Also be aware when going from 6 to 5 to keep the shifter pressed to the right or you can hit 3rd instead...this is, shall we say "entertaining" on a high speed exit ramp.
as far as your about how much grinding a transmission can take "how long is a piece of rope?" avoid it but occasionally shouldn't kill it, it aint good but we've all done it in various vehicles.
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edit, you will learn to feel when it doesn't go all the way into gear, try, try again.
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So the general consciences is...
You have all grinded a gear before, it hurt like hell... don't kill yourself over it... and learn from your mistake? As in... be more aware for next time...
I have only really had the "partial engagement" in first and second recently during my warm ups. It is just something I am afraid can happen in any gear...[like 5th]
I just hope I do not encounter it during one of my drives. I have seen the videos. The sound is heart breaking.
Does the tranny have a magnet in it to catch any mental shavings?
RJ, so they all get stuck... 3/4 in... I just need to "feel" it and know when to try again?
I would do MGW, and I would do Bushings... I called the dealership... and they told me... if I install it... even through them... and SOMETHING happens...well "tough luck"... they said... it "MAY" void warranty... I think I am in the same boat like some people here... where I will wait the 5yrs and tinker with it myself... that way... far less to blame on me... if something does crap out...
Thank you Mud, I don't like this "piece of rope" since it is a 5-6K replacement... I have never spent that much on "aesthetics" let alone ropes
I just hear all the horror stories, and how guys swear by the previous gen... Tremec... What was so special about it? Could it take a beating and keep on kicking?
I know... I know... I will get the feeling eventually... it is just that... it FELT "IN"... as if it was in gear, but it wasn't... it was so freaking close... and it was not in gear... and I was like... WTF? Am I feeling things? My hand is telling me... just a little more... but my eyes are like... that looks good to me...
So I am afraid of making that same mistake when I am on the road...because unless the shifter is fully engaged... it will grind! No?
P.S. Yes the clutch is fully depressed. Does pumping the clutch 10 times on warm-up help some of you guys? Not sure it would do anything in terms of the situation I am describing...=/
Is this your first stick shift car? All manual transmissions can/will do this from a stop from time to time. I wrote a reply on how/why it happens, but don't feel like retyping the essay. If you search for my posts you can find it. It's normal, and it happens. You may need to let the car roll and inch or two before it'll drop fully into the gate from a stop to allow the gears to all line up.
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Is this your first stick shift car? All manual transmissions can/will do this from a stop from time to time. I wrote a reply on how/why it happens, but don't feel like retyping the essay. If you search for my posts you can find it. It's normal, and it happens. You may need to let the car roll and inch or two before it'll drop fully into the gate from a stop to allow the gears to all line up.
It is my first Manual... I stated that somewhere up there...
P.S. You have about 13 pages of posts... any tips on what to search?
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about how much grinding a transmission can take "how long is a piece of rope?" avoid it but occasionally shouldn't kill it, it aint good but we've all done it in various vehicles.
