that ant so bad lol what would you say your mpg would be around??
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2002 GT 5speed roush body kit with saleen s281 three piece rear wing totone black top red bottom fr500 nitto 555 275/35/18 with Eibach pro damper system BBK cai,BBK under drive pulleys,Headmen long tube headers,BBK off road X pipe,flowmaster 80 inlet and outlet same end so the roush side exit works,roush lower control arms roush sub frame connectors brenspeed x3 zex nos 125 shot hp257 tq295 on motor 380hp and 395tq on spray best 1/4 time now 12.770 at 115 with blowin the tires of in 2nd and 3d
is it true that the kb 2.1 gives power throughout the powerband ,but the vortech / paxton /prochargers give power mid rpm band on up ?
Yes. The centrifugal blowers have an advantage at high revs, and this translates into better results on the drag strip.
The positive displacement blowers have better power at the lower-midrange revs, and this translates into better results on the street, where much more time is spent.
This is the reason roots blowers are so popular with OE manufacturers.
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"You can never be free until you let yourself go."
2002 GT 5speed roush body kit with saleen s281 three piece rear wing totone black top red bottom fr500 nitto 555 275/35/18 with Eibach pro damper system BBK cai,BBK under drive pulleys,Headmen long tube headers,BBK off road X pipe,flowmaster 80 inlet and outlet same end so the roush side exit works,roush lower control arms roush sub frame connectors brenspeed x3 zex nos 125 shot hp257 tq295 on motor 380hp and 395tq on spray best 1/4 time now 12.770 at 115 with blowin the tires of in 2nd and 3d
Both do well. The centrifugal blowers have an edge up high on the revs, the positive displacements down low.
Drag strip racing where the norm is dumping the clutch with the motor already in the centrifugal blower's sweet spot gives them a small advantage, all other things being equal.
Street conditions, where launching from 4000+ RPM is NOT the norm, yields better results and driveability from the low end torque of the KB's.
Its all about emphasis. If you live for Saturday night's trip to the strip, you might decide that the ProCharger is the way to go.
If you just do the drag strip thing a few times a year, you'd probably be happier with all that glorious low end postive displacement torque there under you right foot every time you want it.
The difference between a good driver and a mediocre one is larger, for that matter, in the case of a trip to the track, so its just one of many things that can be offset with skill.
Viva la difference, I say. Both are great choices, and both ways have advantages. Just depends on what you want.
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"You can never be free until you let yourself go."
i drive on the street a lot and go to the track bout everyother week lol when in seasion. I love the thought of instant power and allso love the sound of the KB
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2002 GT 5speed roush body kit with saleen s281 three piece rear wing totone black top red bottom fr500 nitto 555 275/35/18 with Eibach pro damper system BBK cai,BBK under drive pulleys,Headmen long tube headers,BBK off road X pipe,flowmaster 80 inlet and outlet same end so the roush side exit works,roush lower control arms roush sub frame connectors brenspeed x3 zex nos 125 shot hp257 tq295 on motor 380hp and 395tq on spray best 1/4 time now 12.770 at 115 with blowin the tires of in 2nd and 3d
i drive on the street a lot and go to the track bout everyother week lol when in seasion. I love the thought of instant power and allso love the sound of the KB
Pure music. I like the sound of the ProCharger too (different, but less whiney than some others).
You know what, though? In their own way, they all sound good. The sound of machinery doing its job has a quality that is nearly universal.
But do we all have our own unique "ear of the beholder" preferences?
LOL, no doubt about it.
There are two distinct, different personalities involved - those who love the ultimate top end wildness you get from a centrifugal blower (similar in many ways to a turbocharger), or the instant response of the twin screw.
I think they are both equally valid points of view.
I'd have one of each (seperate cars, naturally) if I had the money.
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tripleblack
"You can never be free until you let yourself go."
yea Ive never have see the procharger in person and I would do the same if had the money and a turbo one also lol. so it would come down to my hole set up wont it
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2002 GT 5speed roush body kit with saleen s281 three piece rear wing totone black top red bottom fr500 nitto 555 275/35/18 with Eibach pro damper system BBK cai,BBK under drive pulleys,Headmen long tube headers,BBK off road X pipe,flowmaster 80 inlet and outlet same end so the roush side exit works,roush lower control arms roush sub frame connectors brenspeed x3 zex nos 125 shot hp257 tq295 on motor 380hp and 395tq on spray best 1/4 time now 12.770 at 115 with blowin the tires of in 2nd and 3d
yea Ive never have see the procharger in person and I would do the same if had the money and a turbo one also lol. so it would come down to my hole set up wont it
Yes, that's an important variable - and a skill, since many drivers do it wrong or get out of whack and red light.
All the driving skills can be polished and, like the always on blower's power, they are always there to serve you.
I've seen many ultimate dyno machines go down to a well-tuned and driven daily driver making less power but getting it ALL hooked up and making all the right driving moves.
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tripleblack
"You can never be free until you let yourself go."
yea I know what u mean this guy I know has like 475rwhp and only runs a high 12s nothing else is done but motor and trans with my suspension done and I think iam a good driver I think with like 400 to 450 I think low 12 maybe 11s?? when my car was all stock I ran a 13.98 once still need to work on launches and 60'
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2002 GT 5speed roush body kit with saleen s281 three piece rear wing totone black top red bottom fr500 nitto 555 275/35/18 with Eibach pro damper system BBK cai,BBK under drive pulleys,Headmen long tube headers,BBK off road X pipe,flowmaster 80 inlet and outlet same end so the roush side exit works,roush lower control arms roush sub frame connectors brenspeed x3 zex nos 125 shot hp257 tq295 on motor 380hp and 395tq on spray best 1/4 time now 12.770 at 115 with blowin the tires of in 2nd and 3d
yea I know what u mean this guy I know has like 475rwhp and only runs a high 12s nothing else is done but motor and trans with my suspension done and I think iam a good driver I think with like 400 to 450 I think low 12 maybe 11s?? when my car was all stock I ran a 13.98 once still need to work on launches and 60'
If he's putting that much power through the stock drivetrain and rear suspension, he's getting those old OE LCA's some kind of workout. Probably has wheel hop like mad, too.
He needs to talk to Maximum Motorsports (or somebody, anybody, who makes good adjustable LCA's). Probably needs new shocks and springs, too.
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tripleblack
"You can never be free until you let yourself go."
he says he has to save up for suspension work and a few other things he wants to do. Id just like to have a high 11 or low 12 car that I can drive everyday if I wanted to, I got the roush lca havent got to test them out yet the day I finished puttin them on I put it away for winter
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2002 GT 5speed roush body kit with saleen s281 three piece rear wing totone black top red bottom fr500 nitto 555 275/35/18 with Eibach pro damper system BBK cai,BBK under drive pulleys,Headmen long tube headers,BBK off road X pipe,flowmaster 80 inlet and outlet same end so the roush side exit works,roush lower control arms roush sub frame connectors brenspeed x3 zex nos 125 shot hp257 tq295 on motor 380hp and 395tq on spray best 1/4 time now 12.770 at 115 with blowin the tires of in 2nd and 3d
I had 4:10's installed long before I bought my K/B, but with my M/T ET street radials, it hooks pretty good. I usually cut high 1.7's to 1.8 60 ft. times with H P Motorsports mega-bite Jr. lca's and subframe connectors being the only suspension work done. I have the 2.1 @ 6 lbs. non i/c and mine is putting out 330 at the wheels. Most people think that the twin screws make all there power down low, which isn't true. They make alot of torque almost instantly but the boost and the horsepower keep climbing with rpm's. You can see that on my dyno chart. Notice how flat the torque curve is. I plan on intercooling and going to 9 lbs. this summer, and then I might have to go to 3:73's.
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K/B 6 lb non i/c,Tuneable induction CAI,BBK 70 MM T/B,Lightning 90 MM MAF,BBK shorty headers,Mac o/r Prochamber,Mac catback,Centerforce D/F,Tri-Ax shifter,FRPP 4:10 gears,H P Motorsport C/C plates,subframe connectors and Mega-Bite Jr. LCA's,Autometer boost/vac gauge,Cervini 95 Cobra R hood,Mach 1 chin spoiler and grill delete,smoked head lights,crystal clear driving lights.
330 rwhp
12.8@110
thats good times man I run abought anywere around 98mph and 104 mph but cant get in to a good time what up with my driving?
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2002 GT 5speed roush body kit with saleen s281 three piece rear wing totone black top red bottom fr500 nitto 555 275/35/18 with Eibach pro damper system BBK cai,BBK under drive pulleys,Headmen long tube headers,BBK off road X pipe,flowmaster 80 inlet and outlet same end so the roush side exit works,roush lower control arms roush sub frame connectors brenspeed x3 zex nos 125 shot hp257 tq295 on motor 380hp and 395tq on spray best 1/4 time now 12.770 at 115 with blowin the tires of in 2nd and 3d
