[4.6StangRage]

Well i haven't completely discussed this with my wife but it is a concept.

ENGINE
well it has 110k on it. I was thinking on refreshing it with some new gaskets and some cleaning. Heads Re-built? The engine runs great no performance issues what so ever.

Shaker Intake- i know it is more for looks than anything but the looks is worth it for me.

Cat back exhaust
http://www.latemodelrestoration.com/iwwida.pvx?;item?item_no=MAC-TK8604%20%20%20%20%201&comp=LRS

Pulleys

4.10 Gears- i do mostly city driving

5 speed Conversion

I was thinking of chipping the ECU what do u guys think?

SUSPENSION
here it is
94-04 SUSPENSION KIT, 01 BULLITT STYLE MUSTANG

INTERIOR

'97 or '98 center column, i want to delete the ashtray and add better cupholders. Nobody will be smoking in my car... Nobody lol

Both door panel inserts need to be sanded and painted black

paint rubbed off my driver side door panel so it needs painting

Carpeting needs major cleaning nothing too bad just needs refreshing (i want overkill on this)

Both front seats need to be re-skinned with new or good used saddle leather.

audio system- believe it or not I would like to get the system back to stock all i need is the bottom CD player
Replace all speakers with Sony Explodes

EXTERIOR

Body damage needs repair (quote with paint was $600)

Rear bumper needs to be replaced

Hood cut for shaker hood scoop

Re-paint (some type of red) nothing too insane like pearl or candy


What do you guys think?

I love my car and i really would like to make it more apart of me. I plan on fitting this in a 7k-8k budget, and some things i will do myself to save money. Again communication is very important in my relationship with my wife so this is just a concept. I will be like "Babe we will get you your yellow 2004 Rx8 dont worry" lol just kidding... well actually we may get one.

[RandyStinchcomb]

stay away from "chips" untill you have some real HP, it's a waste on a stock engine....at 110k, I'd stay away from a set of "fresh" heads and just look for a low-mileage 2001 to 2004 "PI" engine....1st mod should be a set of subframe connectors.......4.10's are good gear, esp[ if you go the "PI" engine route....

[4.6StangRage]

would a 2001 to 2004 "PI" engine and 5 speed transmission setup be a direct bolt in?

[charliesolhan]

not really...all you need to do is get a upper off a pi engine and switch that out...plus at this time add a cam also...this is what i have done and i absolutly luv mine...it is incredible the difference it has made!!

[RandyStinchcomb]

Originally Posted by 4.6StangRage

would a 2001 to 2004 "PI" engine and 5 speed transmission setup be a direct bolt in?

pretty much, you will need to reuse your timing cover due to the fact that you have coil paks and 1999 up have COP's (coil on plugs) and prob get a Speed-Cal or Tunner for the speedo as your 1996 has a mechanical speedo and 1999 up is magnetic, other than that it pretty much "drop in"

1999 & 2000 will also work but those 2 years are Windsor engines and would require a 8 bolt flywheel and some other small B/S parts to make work...

[4.6StangRage]

Originally Posted by RandyStinchcomb

pretty much, you will need to reuse your timing cover due to the fact that you have coil paks and 1999 up have COP's (coil on plugs) and prob get a Speed-Cal or Tunner for the speedo as your 1996 has a mechanical speedo and 1999 up is magnetic, other than that it pretty much "drop in"

1999 & 2000 will also work but those 2 years are Windsor engines and would require a 8 bolt flywheel and some other small B/S parts to make work...

what about getting a speedo cluster for 2001-2004, that would probably entail too many mods huh?

[charliesolhan]

instead of taking the whole engine out of a 99-04gt...just do the pi swap...meaning the upper only...heads..valve covers, upper and lower intake...this will be alot easier and cheaper...only prob w/ this is it pushes your compression up to 10:1 and you can only run 93octane and higher...then you won't have any problems w/ flywheel and speedo and the other little bs you will need.

[4.6StangRage]

Originally Posted by charliesolhan

instead of taking the whole engine out of a 99-04gt...just do the pi swap...meaning the upper only...heads..valve covers, upper and lower intake...this will be alot easier and cheaper...only prob w/ this is it pushes your compression up to 10:1 and you can only run 93octane and higher...then you won't have any problems w/ flywheel and speedo and the other little bs you will need.

I would like that but the problem is that the block has 110k on it. plus i like the COPs and I need a ECU anyways 'cause I will be installing a manual transmission. I was going to do the PI swap but i need it to be all low mileage. I will still consider it but I will have to take the block out no matter what. Oh yeah flywheel and what not, i wouldn't have to worry 'cause the whole drivetrain will be pulled and dropped.

[410cougar]

Personally id just do the long block and keep your stock tranny. The is no need to rewire anything this way pull yours and drop in the new(swapping a few parts). Later on upgrade your tranny to a TKO.

j

[RandyStinchcomb]

Originally Posted by 4.6StangRage

I would like that but the problem is that the block has 110k on it. plus i like the COPs and I need a ECU anyways 'cause I will be installing a manual transmission. I was going to do the PI swap but i need it to be all low mileage. I will still consider it but I will have to take the block out no matter what. Oh yeah flywheel and what not, i wouldn't have to worry 'cause the whole drivetrain will be pulled and dropped.

just an FYI but switching from Coil Paks to COP's is prob not a good idea, althought it has been done, Coil Paks are much cheaper and reliable than COP's....oh and switching from an auto to a manual does NOT require a new ECM, but going the other way would.....

[4.6StangRage]

Originally Posted by 410cougar

Personally id just do the long block and keep your stock tranny. The is no need to rewire anything this way pull yours and drop in the new(swapping a few parts). Later on upgrade your tranny to a TKO.

j

I i am doing a swap like this I really want a manual... way more fun. Im not looking for insane performance. I just want my stang revamped.

Originally Posted by RandyStinchcomb

just an FYI but switching from Coil Paks to COP's is prob not a good idea, althought it has been done, Coil Paks are much cheaper and reliable than COP's....oh and switching from an auto to a manual does NOT require a new ECM, but going the other way would.....

....so if i did this I would use my stock wiring? or just the stock ECM? or were you just explaining the fact that the ECM doesnt need to be swap for auto to manual conversion?

I was thinking of getting a engine and tranny setup with all of the wiring and drop it in. If the ECM is re-usable Ill save some money and keep mine.


....BTW thanks for your info guys. I am really trying to think this over thoroughly before I dive into this.

[4.6StangRage]

Originally Posted by charliesolhan

instead of taking the whole engine out of a 99-04gt...just do the pi swap...meaning the upper only...heads..valve covers, upper and lower intake...this will be alot easier and cheaper...only prob w/ this is it pushes your compression up to 10:1 and you can only run 93octane and higher...then you won't have any problems w/ flywheel and speedo and the other little bs you will need.

just a thought... If i can find a decently priced New block or rebuilt block, i can bolt the PI heads on then attach the transmission and drop it in. what do u guys think? Otherwise i just want a low mileage 4.6 out of a 2001-2004 GT like Randy said.

[RandyStinchcomb]

Originally Posted by 4.6StangRage

I i am doing a swap like this I really want a manual... way more fun. Im not looking for insane performance. I just want my stang revamped.




....so if i did this I would use my stock wiring? or just the stock ECM? or were you just explaining the fact that the ECM doesnt need to be swap for auto to manual conversion?

I was thinking of getting a engine and tranny setup with all of the wiring and drop it in. If the ECM is re-usable Ill save some money and keep mine.


....BTW thanks for your info guys. I am really trying to think this over thoroughly before I dive into this.

the wiring is different through out the years so it wont be that simple, stick to the electronics you have now, it will make things much easier...

[charliesolhan]

Originally Posted by 4.6StangRage

just a thought... If i can find a decently priced New block or rebuilt block, i can bolt the PI heads on then attach the transmission and drop it in. what do u guys think? Otherwise i just want a low mileage 4.6 out of a 2001-2004 GT like Randy said.

Just to let ya know 110k is nothing on that engine...i have seen boys run them till 250k easily...I have 98k on mine...she still runs like new...i don't see why you would wanna change your block out for the same block lower miles...who is to say the new lower mile block is not gonna crap out on you...you block is fine especially if it runs good and nothing is wrong w/ it...i would first pull it and see if the piston walls are scratched up...if they are still new looking keep it in there.

I could see if you wanted a 03/04 cobra block

Butt I would just find some pi heads off a romeo engine and bolt them up...then find some valve covers...upper and lower intake and be done w/ it

Then you can find used t-45's all day at junk yards for cheap...then just get ya self a flywheel...clutch, cable, driveshaft...etc.

[charliesolhan]

Originally Posted by 4.6StangRage

ENGINE
well it has 110k on it. I was thinking on refreshing it with some new gaskets and some cleaning. Heads Re-built? The engine runs great no performance issues what so ever.

So again why replace it...w/ a used low mile short block w/ possible issues...when you already know yours runs good!!

Just do the pi coversion on yours...take the extra money you dit not spend on the short block and put it into some cams!

Then just swap out the tranny if you really want...I know you want a 5spd in all...but I would probally just beef yours up!!

I like to spend my money on performance...making my car faster...right now your trying to spend all this money and all your gonna get is a car as fast as the 99-04gt's...this does not make sense to me...you could just go buy one for 8k if you really wanted...then again it is your car do as ya will!!!

But if I had 7-8k to burn...it would be all performance!!