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Old 10-14-2008   #1 (permalink)
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ok, so i have a friend with an sti. and i have a 2001 GT. we have been depating who would win about a half mile race. i agree the sti will take me off the line. but with it being a 4banger idk about top end. i feel sti's are over rated, but they are pretty potent

just wondering about sum stats. anyone know any stock vs. stock 1/4 mile times for both?

sadly, my GT is an auto.......only thing the dealer had at the time and it wasnt really planned out to drive home in a newer stang at age 16 so i just took what i could get i guess
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Sorry to disapoint you but your going to have a really hard time keeping up with an STI stock for stock, also your an auto which is going to hurt you even more. Your probably making around 220-230 at the wheel .Hes probably making around 240-250 at the wheel hes about 400 lighter and has a huge launch advantage being AWD
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Here are some stock 0-60 and 1/4 mile times from various sources they are not 100% reliable but a good general guide. 2004 Subaru Forester 2.5 XT, Turbo 5.3 13.8 (C&D Aug '03)
2007 Subaru Forester 2.5XT 5.9 14.3 (C&D Online)
1987 Subaru Hatchback 13.2 19.0
1993 Subaru Impreza L 10.6 17.9
1993 Subaru Impreza L Wagon 12.7 19.0
1993 Subaru Impreza LS AWD 12.1 18.8
2002 Subaru Impreza WRX 5.7 14.4
2004 Subaru Impreza WRX STi 5.1 13.8
2004 Subaru Impreza RS 2.5 (manual) 7.9 15.9 (MR)
2006 Subaru Impreza 22B STi 4.7 13.5 (C&D)
1989 Subaru Justy 4WD GL 12.0 18.5
1989 Subaru Justy GL ECVT 14.5 19.9
1990 Subaru Legacy LS 10.5 17.4
1991 Subaru Legacy Sport Sedan 8.5 16.0
1995 Subaru Legacy L Wagon 10.9 17.7
1996 Subaru Legacy Outback 9.8 17.4
1997 Subaru Legacy Outback Ltd. 9.1 17.0
2005 Subaru Legacy GT Wagon 7.0 15.45 (Edmunds)
2003 Subaru Sti Type RA Spec C 5.5 14.0
1992 Subaru SVX 7.3 15.5
1993 Subaru SVX 8.7 16.2
1981 Subaru DL Hardtop 13.4 N/A
1982 Subaru GL 14.8 19.7
1984 Subaru GL Turbo-Traction Wagon 13.0 19.0
1985 Subaru 4WD Turbo 10.5 17.9
1986 Subaru 4WD Turbo XT Coupe 9.7 17.2
1989 Subaru XT6 4WD 9.2 16.7
2006 Subaru WRX STI 4.5 13.0 MT Dec '05)
2007 Subaru WRX 2.5L Turbo (Non-STI) 5.3 14.1 (May '07 C&D page 60)

1974 Ford Maverick 302ci 10.5 17.4
1964 Ford Mustang (289ci V8 w/4spd) 7.5 15.7
1966 Ford Mustang (289ci V8 Auto) 10.9 17.9
1967 Ford Mustang (390ci V8 w/4spd) 7.4 15.6
1971 Ford Mustang (351ci V8 w/4spd) 5.8 13.8
1973 Ford Mustang 351ci 8.9 16.3
1974 Ford Mustang II 4sp 14.2 18.8
1974 Ford Mustang II Auto 15.6 19.4
1975 Ford Mustang II (302ci V8 w/3spd) 9.6 17.5
1977 Ford Mustang II 302ci 11.3 17.7
1970 Ford Mustang Boss 302 6.5 14.9 (C&D Feb '70)
1971 Ford Mustang Boss 351 5.8 13.8
2001 Ford Mustang Bullitt GT 5.6 14.1 (MT 01)
1980 Ford Mustang (255ci) 11.8 18.5
1980 Ford Mustang Cobra (225ci) 11.3 18.4
1981 Ford Mustang M81 McLaren (2.3L Turbo) 9.7 17.3
1982 Ford Mustang GT 8.0 N/A
1984 Ford Mustang SVO 7.9 15.8
1985 Ford Mustang GT 6.4 14.9 (C&D, Jan. 85)
1987 Ford Mustang GT 6.4 14.4 (Automobile, April 87)
1988 Ford Mustang GT 6.4 15.0 (MT Jan '88)
1989 Ford Mustang GT 5.0l Manual 6.2 14.8 (MT Jan '89)
1990 Ford Mustang LX 5.0 6.4 14.9
1991 Ford Mustang GT 7.3 15.6
1992 Ford Mustang LX 5.0 6.2 14.8
1993 Ford Mustang Cobra 5.9 14.5
1993 Ford Mustang GT (auto) 8.0 16.1
1994 Ford Mustang Cobra 5.4 14.0
1994 Ford Mustang GT 6.1 14.9 (C&D Dec '93)
1995 Ford Mustang 3.8 9.9 17.3
1995 Ford Mustang Cobra R 5.2 13.8
1996 Ford Mustang Cobra 5.4 14.0
1998 Ford Mustang Cobra SVT 5.4 14.0
1999 Ford Mustang Cobra SVT 5.4 13.9
1999 Ford Mustang Convertible V6 8.6 16.5
1999 Ford Mustang GT 5.5 14.1
2001 Ford Mustang Cobra SVT 4.8 13.5
2003 Ford Mustang Cobra SVT 4.5 12.4 (MM&FF)
2004 Ford Mustang Cobra SVT 4.5 12.9
2005 Ford Mustang GT V-6 6.9 15.3 (C&D Feb '05)
2005 Ford Mustang GT 4.6L V8 5.1 13.5 (MT Jan '05)
2005 Ford Mustang GT Convertible 5.2 13.8 (MT Apr '05)
2001 Ford Mustang Roush Stage 3 4.3 12.9
1969 Ford Mustang Mach 1 5.7 13.9
1969 Ford Mustang Mach 1 428ci 5.7 14.3 (C&D Nov '68)
2003 Ford Mustang Mach 1 (5 Speed) 4.7 13.2 (MT Feb '05)
2003 Ford Mustang Mach 1 (Auto) 5.6 13.88 (MT Apr '04)
2007 Ford Mustang Shelby GT 5.0 13.6 (MT Online)
2007 Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 Convertible 4.5 12.9 (R&T Jan '06)
2007 Ford Mustang Shelby GT-H 5.3 13.9 (C&D Nov '06)
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The STi will spank you.
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get some nitrous installed and don't tell him, then act like you beat him stock
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what do u guys think of this race....1999 Mustang GT (manual) o/r h pipe with BBK fender cai vs 2004 Mustang GT (auto) bassani catted x and flowmaster 40s JLT ram air cai and steeda underdrive pulleys....whos winnin 1/4 mile?
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That would be a drivers race. The cars are pretty close to equal(maybe a little less rwhp for the auto). When my car was stock I took it to the 1/8 mi track and there was an 02 GT stock with an auto and we were running about the same times.
And yeh The STI would win. Got beat by one last year, not sure if it was stock but im lookin for a rematch
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He's going to beat you(unless he can't drive) You have a better chance racing from a roll than a dig so you take away his AWD advantage
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Man i hate to say it but i also think he may get ya. You have a chance though, anything could happen. Those cars are quick for what they are and like mentioned above the damn AWD. Good luck though.
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could probubly find alot of cars that are a hair faster than your car on paper.
im sure some like me refrain from giving you pointers as at 16 its not desireable for me to have you on the street contemplating high speed runs against another 16 year old, both with the ink still wet on your first drivers licenses. im sure your urge will overcome your sense as it happens to us all. i pray you take it to a empty stretch of road and avoid traffic areas with side streets.

all that said having a mustang GT at your age is a sweet deal. enjoy it

ps i dont understand why it would be taboo to mod the gt stang against the sti a bit. for crying out loud thing has stock mods that put it up there with the stock stuff you find under the hood of a svt cobra. so i say throw on some mods and open a can of whoopass on that funny lookin fwd 4 banger wannabe.
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hey man i just race an 07 gti and killed it, well not kill but did beat it. so there is hope. but i think something might have been wrong with his car. all my mods are at the bottom. and yeah be carefull all i have to say
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ive been driving since i was like.......10. i lived out in the middle of NOWERE till i was 16. then i moved. and then got the stang. haha....sumtimes i miss back road gravel drifting in a POS beater not caring what happened to it.


and im not 16. im 17. we got it when i was 16. god i wish it was a 5 speed. haha. yea.....i lost......not bad though we estimated about 1/4 mile and he got me off the line and i pulled on him all the way up after about 30 ish. i lost by about 1 1/2 cars. i think thats pretty good for 300hp vs 260hp.

yay torque (and no turbo lag)
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I am actually surprised that you didn't loose by a lot more. A stock STi will run about 108 to 110 mph in the quarter. You my friend stock are 97-99 mph if you are lucky.
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yea, but were also just teenagers......not pros lol.

i want to put slp loudmouths on the mustang.........how much do you think it would cost do get a setup like that?
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depends on what setup you want like with a full exhaust like headers, mid pipe, and then cat back it could cost a pretty penny but if you just want a cat back then i would say a few hundred
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