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Default BBK 78mm Throttle Intake Question

Has anyone tried the new BBK 78mm Throttle Intake? If so, what do you think? Worth it or not?
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Sounds like overkill, would there really be a huge difference between their 75 mm and a 78 mm? or just a money difference? Im curious too
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Throttle body's are not worth it unless your car has some great mods like super/turbo charger, nos etc..
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Throttle body's are not worth it unless your car has some great mods like super/turbo charger, nos etc..

stick with a 70mm
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Throttle body's are not worth it unless your car has some great mods like super/turbo charger, nos etc..
Seriously??...Take it back to the basics, more air=more power. If the throttle body didnt make a difference neither would an aftermarket airintake.
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I have it and like it. I am planning on going F/I at some point so thats why i went the the 78 mm. like my car is now i feel a difference from about 4500 rpm's and up
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Seriously??...Take it back to the basics, more air=more power. If the throttle body didnt make a difference neither would an aftermarket airintake.
who's talking about an aftermarket intake, also the intake is the first thing that receives the air so an aftermarket one with a tune will gain some hp, and if you just do the throttle body with the stock intake won't work...
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who's talking about an aftermarket intake, also the intake is the first thing that receives the air so an aftermarket one with a tune will gain some hp, and if you just do the throttle body with the stock intake won't work...
No kidding!! SO your going to tell me that a throttle body wont allow more air through the plenum and manifold and eventually into the cylinder?? Because if thats the case let me know so i can inform every driver world wide who cannot afford a $5000 Supercharger that theyve thrown their money away by installing a throttle body with out running boost. Seriously I read that first post of yours and I could hardly believe you wrote that. So '04 Smoke, my best advice, get the TB/Plenum combo because a throttle body alone makes no sense whatso ever to me. Also stick with the 70MM setup unless you plan to run boost. In my opinion 75MM can be used for upto 8-9lbs. boost but any more than that id get something bigger, like the BBK 78MM. Youll definetly see a change, even with out some "GREAT MODS LIKE SUPER/ TURBO CHARGER NOS ETC..."
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You can ask somebody with more knowledge it for sure aloud more air to the cylinder but what I"m trying to say is that for the price is not worth it, There's a lot of better stuff than that... like gears for ex..
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You can ask somebody with more knowledge it for sure aloud more air to the cylinder but what I"m trying to say is that for the price is not worth it, There's a lot of better stuff than that... like gears for ex..
Gears will only give you either a higher top speed or fasster acceleration, a TB should give you more power across the entire band I believe.
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Gears will only give you either a higher top speed or fasster acceleration, a TB should give you more power across the entire band I believe.
It looks like you don't know what you're talking about if you have a TB why you're saying that you believe it gives power across the entire band?? also gears give you only faster acceleration.. how much did you paid for the TB how fast did it feel, just answer honestly so he^ can make the right decision not to say something against me...
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It looks like you don't know what you're talking about if you have a TB why you're saying that you believe it gives power across the entire band?? also gears give you only faster acceleration.. how much did you paid for the TB how fast did it feel, just answer honestly so he^ can make the right decision not to say something against me...
That whole entry make about as much sense as wiping before you poop...I paid $420 for the Accufab TB & plenum from AM. I can definitely feel the difference. Im not going against your statement where you said gears are effective however they also have negative effects such as lower top speeds and gas mileage.

I think the answer hes looking for is, yes its a good brand but unless your running it extremely hard and done some internal mods its not worth it. I bought mine from JEGS as a combo package for $420 and was lucky to unload it on a friend who paid me $350. It causes your RPMS to surge at idle. THe install was simple though considering its a tb/plenum oin one pieve which seems like a very effective way to maximize air delivery.
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As much as I sometimes would like to disagree with big daddy's stang on mod's he's correct. You can't just strap on a CAI with the biggest throttle body and plenum and expect to make power in every single situation on every single build. The nPI 4.6L probably makes a total of 5hp off of these mods, and if you're feeling that, it's time to get your butt dyno recalibrated.

The PI 4.6L will see more of an improvement, but not much. Like he said, anything over 70mm without boost is a waste of money. You're paying out the (uncalibrated) butt for a measly 8/10s of a centimeter and gaining nothing off it. When you start forcing air in there at higher rates (IE forced induction) then yes, every little bit helps.

I know some people on this site have a hard-on for $300+ shiny things that they can add to their sig mod list, but lets be real. If you're going to be building a strong N/A motor, CAI and Throttle bodies are the last things you should be wasting your money on, there's bigger gains to be had from Gears, LT headers, Cams, and many other things. After you start getting the NEED for air to flow through the engine, you should step up the intake side.

We're not driving LT1s here, folks.
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Thanks,^ I was waiting for new answers....^
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