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Old 09-12-2009   #1 (permalink)
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Default 2000 Mustang Saleen nonsupercharged needs upgrades.

I have a 2000 Saleen that as you can all read is not superchaged, im looking for some quick horsepower gain ideas besides the easiest way out getting a supercharger. Its a 4.6 sohc with long tube 4 to 1 headers no cat strait to flowmasters, underpullys, 78mm throttle body, cold air intake, and reprogramed for cold street.
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First I would change to a smaller tb since you are n/a. Maybe like 70mm, 78mm could actually be hurting your hp. The most felt mod IMO (except power adder) is gears, maybe look into some 3.73 or 4.10 gears.
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orrrr look into some nitrous. easy, safe (if you get a complete kit with the saftey standards), and verrry cheap considering how much power you get out of it.
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Is there a good top mounted s/c for the sohc 2v i herd they sell a eaton m112 4v to 2v convert kit but i don't know if that would lose hp any feedback
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Hmm, I didnt know you were talking about adding that kinda power. I say look past that eaton and look into Kenne Bell for some real hp gains.
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a kenne bell would be nice but at the same time it's going to put a pretty big hole in your pocket.

talk to grn 00 gt. he has some sort of saleen series blower. i'm sure you could find a decently priced one (used) and slap that on. and it would sure be nice to keep the authenticity of the saleen too.
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Chip (Grn00GT) and myself have the same blower. Saleen Series IV blower. With a pulley, and intercooler mod you could see in the ballpark of 400rwhp.

You might be able to find one used, not 100% sure.
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talk to grn 00 gt. he has some sort of saleen series blower. i'm sure you could find a decently priced one (used) and slap that on. and it would sure be nice to keep the authenticity of the saleen too.


The mods that should easily take a Saleen Series IV kit to 360 to 380 whp are as follows:

90mm LMAF
42# injectors
Cold air kit (mine is 4" diameter with a 9" long conical filter)
75mm T/B
2.8" upper pulley (9#)
112" Goodyear Gatorback belt (at least that is the 2000 GT length)
Mosaleen Custom idler (Mosaleen.com)
Kenne Bell Boost a Pump or larger fuel pump
Custom tune
Free flowing exhaust (Read: 2 1/2" dual cats or offroad x and 2 1/2" catback)
NGK BR7EF spark plugs gapped to 0.035" (2 steps colder than stock)
Chicane I/C upgrade
AFCO extreme dual pass or equivilent heat exchanger
Water wetter and some good cool ambient air

If you are worried about engine longevity, DON'T! Just keep the oil at the full mark, run with a good tune and run synthetic oil. I only use Mobil 1 5w30 in mine and have 117,3xx miles now and almost 40,000 has been with boost.
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Chip (Grn00GT) and myself have the same blower. Saleen Series IV blower. With a pulley, and intercooler mod you could see in the ballpark of 400rwhp.

You might be able to find one used, not 100% sure.
You're soo modest... what are you putting down now? 450 whp on boost and 500 whp on gas?
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You're soo modest... what are you putting down now? 450 whp on boost and 500 whp on gas?


440/450 hp/tq on "boost"
525/540 hp/tq on "juice"

Thats 90+ Degree heat, 100% humidity air temps!
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440/450 hp/tq on "boost"
525/540 hp/tq on "juice"

Thats 90+ Degree heat, 100% humidity air temps!
LOL, I was pretty close.

Dyno that beast in 30* weather with the 125 pill.
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LOL, I was pretty close.

Dyno that beast in 30* weather with the 125 pill.
Thats what Steve did with his KB. Maybe I can get the "snakebite" out of my car

I'll be going back to the dyno here in October most likely. I'll let you know the #s.
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