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If I get a boost pipe will I need a intercooler I don't think I will because it is not creating any more heat I just want to make sure because I didn't plan on getting a intercooler for a month or so. And what brand would you go with and are there websites where you can purchase these thanks
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IMO every blown car needs an intercooler (and a wideband).
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IMO every blown car needs an intercooler (and a wideband).
Im going to be getting a intercooler I just have a few bills and want a few extra horsepower and I hate the look of the stock black plastic one.. So does anyone know if I get a boost pipe I will need a intercooler I don't think it will add extra heat I just want to make sure.
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you might end up needing one. the power pipes are known to sometimes increas the boost by 3psi. with all that extra boost and no intercooler detonation could very easily be possible.

just wait for the intercooler before you start adding any more horses. it's just so much safer. and if the stock pipe is bothering you so much just dont open the hood
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IMO every blown car needs an intercooler (and a wideband).
I agree, without an interocooler, you severely lower the output potential of your setup.

The wideband helps let you know what the engine is doing.
I have a drawthrough on my P/D blower setup and the MAF outlet pipe clamp popped off on me once. I saw AFR of 18-19 and pulled over to inspect, had I just continued driving it would have ruined the engine.
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But with the Boost pipe I won't see any extra heat so it wouldn't cause any harm to the engine.. And yeah I need to get a A/F ration gauge all I have right now is just a boost gauge.
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Run octane boost until you get an intercooler: Lucas makes a real one and is recommended by Kenne Bell
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Anyone have any Boost pipes they could recommend?

Steeda? or AFM? what works best and will I have to make any mods to make it fit?
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Good Reading from Kenne Bell
HIGH OCTANE vs. INTERCOOLING Because of the high cost and complexity in intercooling the ‘96-’98 Cobra engine, our customers choosing to run the higher boost levels allowed by an intercooler, use the alternate method - higher fuel octane. It’s easy and economical. Keep in mind intercoolers DO NOT “make” more HP. They ONLY allow an engine to run higher boost (approx. 3-4 psi) whether it be intercooled or non intercooled. Good octane booster with pump gas (see above table) or an intercooler BOTH allow the engine to run 3-4 psi higher boost. So you can use the “octane booster and higher boost pulley” combo for everyday driving or only on weekends or for drag racing. A simple easy pulley change requires a mere 4 minutes. It allows the best of both worlds. 6-7 psi on 91-94 octane pump gas or 8-11 psi (approx. 12HP/psi) with octane booster. All of us at Kenne Bell use octane booster in both our intercooled and non intercooled cars. Fuel octane is the only limitation to running higher boost and we like all we can get.
OCTANE BOOSTERS
Torco - Torco Octane Booster (Accelerator Race Fuel Concentrate) can be purchased in 5 gallon 610 oz containers for $138. That’s $.22/oz which adds $.17/gallon (3 octane) or $.34/gallon for 7 octane. Only $120-$240 for 10000 miles of big HP gains and lots of fun. 16 oz in 20 gallons is 7.0 octane. Note: Increasing the ratio above 32 oz in 20 gallons does not provide increase beyond 7 octane. When comparing octane boosters keep in mind that some advertise “octane POINTS.” It takes 10 POINTS to make one octane. Torco doesn’t contain any lead or alcohol.
Lucas - Our other recommendation is Lucas Oil’s “Octane Booster” which nets approx. 3 octane in 20 gallons. It contains MMT (Maganese Tricarbonyl) and is the best of the MMT boosters.
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I went with the Anderson Powerpipe for our Vortech setups. I checked on others but majority recommended the Anderson. With gains of 1-3psi just from adding the powerpipe it's definitely worth the money.
As far as an intercooler goes, as long as your fuel setup, tune, and boost is adequate you will be fine. You're still using the stock pulley I assume? With the powerpipe you might be around 9-10psi which is totally fine without an intercooler.
Oh and yes, Wideband A/F is a must. I have the Autometer Cobalt Boost & Wideband A/F Digital Gauges.
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Anyone have any Boost pipes they could recommend?

Steeda? or AFM? what works best and will I have to make any mods to make it fit?
My friends shop fabricates their own pipes and buys the necessary couplers and clamps depending on the car and setup.. Materials equal maybe $50 as opposed to $250 for the AFM one!
They just put a T-Trim on a 04 Mach1 with a power cooler and hand made pipe!
I'd run a Blow Through MAF with a Air to Air Intercooler!
The CX Racing 31X12X 3 or 4 deep is a very cost effective and nicely performing piece!
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