come thanksgiving-long tubes w/ high flow catted x,new spec 1 clutch and aluminum fly
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come thanksgiving-long tubes w/ high flow catted x,new spec 1 clutch and aluminum fly
ok so i found out today that my tranny is probably not going to blow soon so im just gonna get the work i need and want done. i need the clutch and flywheel installed, and i need a header manifold gasket replaced, so i figure while im in there ill just put in some long tubes. prolly gonna go mac ceramic coated, and then my guys gonna shorten my o/r x and put in some high flow cats for me. does the install for 300 (long tubes), 180 for the cats including purchasing the new high flows, 350 for the long tubes themselves, 250 for the install of the clutch and fly. anyone got an opinion on the cost? i think its a really good deal. but thats just me.
oh and actually, im also thinking going gears and a tune instead of the long tubes. for now anyways. i need to get that header manifold fixed before inspection and i need cats before then also.
or i might do the long tubes now, then get the gears and tune afterwards so i can make better use of the tune since ill have the long tubes on there already.
i know it was a long post, but i have a million ideas and dont know what to do haha. thanks yall
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1997 GT Coupe. CAI and Flow 40' Duals w/ o/r x pipe, Spec Stage 1 Clutch, Spec Aluminum flyhwheel. SCT 93 Performance Tune, hurst short shifter. New AutoX Suspension on the way!! ......"other mods may not be known"
"You can put it off, but it's a matter of time till it fails and leaves you with the rubber-sole express......"
Skip the headers, there's so little gain in them for the price and effort involved, and go straight to the gears.
really? i mean ive got to get the exhaust manifold gasket replaced anyways. given it is necessary to pass inspection, i figure i might at well. and to get the gears, will be 250, then i need to get it tuned, so i need to get a tuner, 379, then get it tuned, 200. then id need to get the clutch installed which is 250 and the 180 for the cats and what not.
still think i should go the gears way? its gonne be a few hundred more for it all.
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1997 GT Coupe. CAI and Flow 40' Duals w/ o/r x pipe, Spec Stage 1 Clutch, Spec Aluminum flyhwheel. SCT 93 Performance Tune, hurst short shifter. New AutoX Suspension on the way!! ......"other mods may not be known"
"You can put it off, but it's a matter of time till it fails and leaves you with the rubber-sole express......"
headers are a 10-12rwhp gain at the most, probably 8 or so with the MACs.
gears may not give you any rwhp, but will make a .3-.5 gain in the 1/4 mile. There's no other single mod for the money that will give you as much gain as gears.....period.
The only thing that will give you more gain is a supercharger, so yes, gears are the way to go.
would it help if i said i didnt care about 1/4 times?? id rather do track racing. like autocross or road racing. ill have to think on this i guess. i got till thanksgiving i guess
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1997 GT Coupe. CAI and Flow 40' Duals w/ o/r x pipe, Spec Stage 1 Clutch, Spec Aluminum flyhwheel. SCT 93 Performance Tune, hurst short shifter. New AutoX Suspension on the way!! ......"other mods may not be known"
"You can put it off, but it's a matter of time till it fails and leaves you with the rubber-sole express......"
bullitt is right on the money in my opinion.him, me and lots of others have been down this road that your on.i have saved up money for long tubes 2 times and could not go thru with it because of h.p to dollar ratio.get a tuner and gears and hold on,that gt will really wake up.look into suspension mods after you get the bolt ons taken care of .spinnin is fun but when your car hooks you go faster
haha yeah. well im thinking i might do this. ive been playing with the numbers all night long. im thinking new springs, cc plates (an alignment of course), clutch/fly install, new tires (cause i need those). the going back a few weeks later and getting the other.
or now i ran the numbers again waiting here while typing, doing the gears, tune and clutch. then going back for the tires, springs, cc plates, install, and alignment. maybe i will do the gears. dollar wise, its right at the 1300 mark im looking for. ill keep yall updated for sure
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1997 GT Coupe. CAI and Flow 40' Duals w/ o/r x pipe, Spec Stage 1 Clutch, Spec Aluminum flyhwheel. SCT 93 Performance Tune, hurst short shifter. New AutoX Suspension on the way!! ......"other mods may not be known"
"You can put it off, but it's a matter of time till it fails and leaves you with the rubber-sole express......"
I have longtubes sitting in my garage that cost me $1800 for the headers and catted X. Add in another $400 for the install on them, and that's $2200 for a max of 12rwhp.
I should have done my research, I could have bought a used supercharger for $2200, and made a lot more than 12rwhp. So I try to educate people, because everyone wants headers, because they were worth HP on older cars, but honestly, I wouldn't even think about headers until I was over 400rwhp, they just don't perform on 4.6 cars.
[quote=Bullitt5339;1767260]I have longtubes sitting in my garage that cost me $1800 for the headers and catted X. Add in another $400 for the install on them, and that's $2200 for a max of 12rwhp.
That must be one heck of a set of headers, I got my BBk long tubes matching H and 40 flows for $900, yeah about $500 to install them, but well worth the money for performance and sound improvements...
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1995 Mustang GT Cnv 347(427 stroker being built!) almost done!
1996 Cobra with Kenne Bell 2.1 Supercharger and every other conceivable part you can bolt on it...650hp upgrade in the works
2003 Infiniti M45 V8 340 hp...a methadone treatment for reformed Mustang drivers
think of headers as scientific notation, they take what power you already have, and give you more power based on how much you already have. put headers on a stock mustang and you wont see much gain whatsoever, but put it on a 700 HP cobra and you'll see much better gains
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silver 98 GT 5 spd; bbk CAI, bbk o/r h mated to flowmaster 40's.. slowly adding mods.
think of headers as scientific notation, they take what power you already have, and give you more power based on how much you already have. put headers on a stock mustang and you wont see much gain whatsoever, but put it on a 700 HP cobra and you'll see much better gains
+1. i have seen gains of over 30rwhp with blowers/turbos. only worth it if you are pushing much more than stock power.
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Procharged 2002 Mustang GT 5 Speed 351rwhp 353rwtq at 10psi
Next summer looking to go with:
Bilstien shocks + struts, Lowering springs (brand still TBD (any suggestions?)), MM CC plates, front + rear sway bars, subframes, and upper and lower control arms.
Time to make the pony ride some rails
I have longtubes sitting in my garage that cost me $1800 for the headers and catted X. Add in another $400 for the install on them, and that's $2200 for a max of 12rwhp.
That must be one heck of a set of headers, I got my BBk long tubes matching H and 40 flows for $900, yeah about $500 to install them, but well worth the money for performance and sound improvements...
My longtubes are made by American Racing, along with the catted X pipe. They are debatably the best headers made, the only one that could even possibly compete is Kooks, and they're about the same price for what I got.
ok so here goes. this is my new plan, and i think most cost effective.
of course the clutch and flywheel needs installed, so that goes without saying. next, ill get new tires. mps auto salvage has a set of 245/45/zr17's for 300 (ordering those friday), and ive got a place to install em for 10 a tire. then im looking at eibach(?) sportline springs, cause there the lowest drop i can find. then the caster camber plates. then an alignment. soooo that will be around 1100. ill have about 3-400 left over, and then a couple weeks after i get back from vacation, ill take my car back and get the gears installed, tuned, and get a tuner. thats another 850. so then with this all said and done, by xmas, ill have a new suspension (cause ive got new shocks already), new clutch/fly, gears and a tune. to me this sounds like a GREAT holiday season haha.
this sound a little more productive than 850 for new longtubes and mid pipe?
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1997 GT Coupe. CAI and Flow 40' Duals w/ o/r x pipe, Spec Stage 1 Clutch, Spec Aluminum flyhwheel. SCT 93 Performance Tune, hurst short shifter. New AutoX Suspension on the way!! ......"other mods may not be known"
"You can put it off, but it's a matter of time till it fails and leaves you with the rubber-sole express......"
man honestly all that money you could do a PI swap which would be the best thing for that car as of right now well except obviously it needs a clutch and flywheel... you can piece a PI swap for pretty cheap
come thanksgiving-long tubes w/ high flow catted x,new spec 1 clutch and aluminum fly 
holiday season haha. 
