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Old 12-27-2004   #1 (permalink)
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Default Replacing flywheel...need suggestions.

My clutch is just about worn out in my 99 GT and I'm tossing around the idea of replacing the flywheel at the same time to lighten the load. Are there any particular brands that are better than others, or ones that I should stay away from completely?
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THe FRPP Aluminum one appears to be pretty good. The only drawback to a lighter flywheel is they are pretty expensive.
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is a lighter fly wheel a good idea for a street car?
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as long as it's a well manufactured piece then it's perfectly fine.
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as long as it's a well manufactured piece then it's perfectly fine.
I've heard that a lighter flywheel lowers your stalling point and that you'll need to rev the engine up a bit more to get going from a stop. A local tranny shop told me to stay away from the aluminum flywheels.
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I've heard that a lighter flywheel lowers your stalling point and that you'll need to rev the engine up a bit more to get going from a stop. A local tranny shop told me to stay away from the aluminum flywheels.
I agree... It's another one of those give and take deals. The engine may run a little bit rougher.
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I have a couple of friends who run them in their daily drivers and they love them. The only problem they talk about is the fact that they are a little noisy (read: clutch chatter). Think about what an aluminum flywheel does for you...it is lighter and allows your engine to rap up faster. Yes you might have to launch at a little higher RPM but that is a pretty good trade off. The guys I know lost around 2 tenths off of their quarter mile times when they went to an aluminum flywheel. A lot of SCCA guys use aluminum flywheels. I have heard some people recommend Fidanza on here before, I dont personally know if they are any good. I am going to an aluminum flywheel.
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I've called around to a couple of shops and now have more questions. A local tranny shop said that 40,000 miles is too low for the clutch to be going out. They recommended pulling on the clutch pedal and listening for a click. The thought was that maybe the automatic adjustment wasn't happening. (No luck there.) They also said to stick with the Ford factory clutch and not to put in the King Cobra 10.5 or 11" discs.

A local Mustang shop is recommending the King Cobra and says that I'd be better off putting in the 11" disc. So that leads me to my questions.....

1. Who do I trust more? I'm not worried about the quality of work; I've dealt with both for other reasons. But who would know more about the right and wrong thing to do? The place that works on tranny's only or the place that works on Mustangs only?

2. Is 40,000 miles too low for the clutch to be going out?

3. Are there any issues with upgrading to the 11" King Cobra clutch?

4. Does anyone know the amount of HP and torque you can put to the factory clutch? I'm going to be adding a supercharger in the next few months and don't want to burn my clutch up.
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A factory clutch is not going to handle the power of a blower for very long.
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Why not look into a spec II clutch. I've heard the King Cobra's aren't really that good for today's applications.
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Why not look into a spec II clutch. I've heard the King Cobra's aren't really that good for today's applications.
It didn't take much abuse from me N/A... 5000 miles and one trip to the track
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It didn't take much abuse from me N/A... 5000 miles and one trip to the track
The king cobra couldn't stand up to your abuse/fun or the spec II?
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