Go Back   Ford Mustang Forums > Mustang > 4.6 Mustang > 4.6L Talk

Welcome to our Mustang forums where Mustangers come together to hang out, discuss and enjoy their favorite Mustang hobby with fellow Mustang enthusiasts. We invite everyone to read, post, and enjoy our Mustang forum as well as the many other sections of our site.

You are currently viewing our forums as a guest. By joining our community you gain access to post topics, communicate with members, upload your photos and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and free so why wait, join our Mustang community today! If you have any problems with registration or your account login, please contact support.


Reply   Post New Thread
Unread 02-13-2013   #1 (permalink)
RiderM2K is offline Rookie


Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 20 Threads: 1
 RiderM2K's Country Flag
V   Arizona
RiderM2K is on a distinguished road
Default first time upgrades.

What up mustang people? I'm new but I just realized why people like me and yourselfs like mustands, they're just very and I mean very good cars. I just bought a 2001 Mustang GT and plan on doin all the upgrades and modifications very soon. But I literally don't have an idea where to start sad to say I'm a car type of guy when it comes to hobbies but just don't know where to start. I was a Honda guy before I bought the Gt but it was just a daily drive type of car not a project car like my Gt. It seemed more than obvious to me that if upgrades are gonna take place they need to start internally. (Internals). I'm not gonna buy a new engine, why when there's already one in there. So I'd appreciate if some of you guy's would lay out some recommendations on what parts will I need to purchase to upgrade the engine safely. Cause starting with cams superchargers and nos isn't gonna help It's just gonna mess up the engine itself. Please and thanks.
RiderM2K is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiTweet this Post!
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Unread 02-13-2013   #2 (permalink)
thetallone is offline PONY Member

4.6L Member


Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 506 Threads: 70
 thetallone's Country Flag
Asheville   North Carolina
thetallone is on a distinguished road
Default

1. Tuner and Gear Combo from American Muscle Ford Racing 4.10 Gears and SF3 Tuner Kit (96-04 V8) 21201||R8.8RMK||24002||M-4209-88410||38018||3015||38052||45003||01300 - Free Shipping!

2. Suspension... springs, shocks, sub frame connectors.
3. Exhaust
4. Cold air intake.
5. Then nos or forced induction. Most say supercharger but I am more of a turbo man.

Also it important to know your budget so we can suggest accordingly!
__________________
2001 Mustang Gt Bullitt, 105,000, mostly stock :nogrinner, 15% tint, led tail lights, Deep Dish Wheels, Nito 555's, shorty antenna, Head Turner.

Mac Off Road Chambered H Pipe, Magnaflow Magnapacks, SCT custom tuner, C&L Cold Air Intake, Exedy Mach 400 stage 2 clutch, Ford Racing 4.10 gears, Under-drive pullies, modded IAC.
thetallone is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiTweet this Post!
Reply With Quote
Unread 02-13-2013   #3 (permalink)
RiderM2K is offline Rookie


Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 20 Threads: 1
 RiderM2K's Country Flag
V   Arizona
RiderM2K is on a distinguished road
Default

Thanks. Any other internal upgrade suggestions?
RiderM2K is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiTweet this Post!
Reply With Quote
Unread 02-13-2013   #4 (permalink)
RiderM2K is offline Rookie


Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 20 Threads: 1
 RiderM2K's Country Flag
V   Arizona
RiderM2K is on a distinguished road
Default

A slim budget of 2k
RiderM2K is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiTweet this Post!
Reply With Quote
Unread 02-13-2013   #5 (permalink)
JJMFP is offline Apprentice

4.6L Member


Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 132 Threads: 20
 JJMFP's Country Flag
Ocala   Florida
JJMFP is on a distinguished road
Default

well it is not going to be turbo or supercharger...2k is a drop in th bucket but there is still a lot more you can do. my suggestions...
1.SR CAI and Bama Tuner (96-04 GT) = $529.99
2.3.73 or 4.10 gears from ford racing(also on americanmuscle.com) = $159
3.Flowmaster Super Flow 44 Series Offset Muffler - 2.5in (79-04 All, Excludes 99-04 Cobra) = $79.99
4.Accufab 70mm Throttle Body & Plenum Combo (96-04 GT) = $439.99

=1208.97....that is a pretty good start. feel free to substitute any brand you like.
__________________
Mustang in my Avatar is a good representation of what my car looks like right now. Soon it will be unique enough for me to take a picture and update with the real deal. 2002GT with Flow-master exhaust, K&N CAI, 3.73 gears. Roush Stage III Fascia in the garage and waiting for test fit:laughlitt

Practical Wishlist: 70mm Throttle body, Throttle body spacer, Tuner with Bama tunes Re-Paint Torch Red
JJMFP is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiTweet this Post!
Reply With Quote
Unread 02-13-2013   #6 (permalink)
JJMFP is offline Apprentice

4.6L Member


Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 132 Threads: 20
 JJMFP's Country Flag
Ocala   Florida
JJMFP is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JJMFP View Post
well it is not going to be turbo or supercharger...2k is a drop in th bucket but there is still a lot more you can do. my suggestions...
1.SR CAI and Bama Tuner (96-04 GT) = $529.99
2.3.73 or 4.10 gears from ford racing(also on americanmuscle.com) = $159
3.Flowmaster Super Flow 44 Series Offset Muffler - 2.5in (79-04 All, Excludes 99-04 Cobra) = $79.99
4.Accufab 70mm Throttle Body & Plenum Combo (96-04 GT) = $439.99

=1208.97....that is a pretty good start. feel free to substitute any brand you like.
oh yeah...get it all from americanmuscle.com and pm dan, the rep after you have had 50 post for a discount code exclusive to allfordmustang members. Hope this helps
__________________
Mustang in my Avatar is a good representation of what my car looks like right now. Soon it will be unique enough for me to take a picture and update with the real deal. 2002GT with Flow-master exhaust, K&N CAI, 3.73 gears. Roush Stage III Fascia in the garage and waiting for test fit:laughlitt

Practical Wishlist: 70mm Throttle body, Throttle body spacer, Tuner with Bama tunes Re-Paint Torch Red
JJMFP is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiTweet this Post!
Reply With Quote
Unread 02-13-2013   #7 (permalink)
RiderM2K is offline Rookie


Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 20 Threads: 1
 RiderM2K's Country Flag
V   Arizona
RiderM2K is on a distinguished road
Default

Thanks for your help and suggestions. Do these goodies listed above include pistons bolt on's and such?
RiderM2K is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiTweet this Post!
Reply With Quote
Unread 02-13-2013   #8 (permalink)
JJMFP is offline Apprentice

4.6L Member


Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 132 Threads: 20
 JJMFP's Country Flag
Ocala   Florida
JJMFP is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RiderM2K View Post
Thanks for your help and suggestions. Do these goodies listed above include pistons bolt on's and such?
These are simple bolt-on parts that can improve horse power and the tuner will make a noticeable change. The CAI helps with the Plenum Throttle body combo to deliver more cool air to the engine and the tuner "tunes it in" so that you make the most of the add ons. You are talking about internal engine components....then a lot more money is involved. not only parts but also the labor for someone to install. stick with the list for now untill you decide what route you want to go. regardless....the list above is a must.
__________________
Mustang in my Avatar is a good representation of what my car looks like right now. Soon it will be unique enough for me to take a picture and update with the real deal. 2002GT with Flow-master exhaust, K&N CAI, 3.73 gears. Roush Stage III Fascia in the garage and waiting for test fit:laughlitt

Practical Wishlist: 70mm Throttle body, Throttle body spacer, Tuner with Bama tunes Re-Paint Torch Red
JJMFP is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiTweet this Post!
Reply With Quote
Unread 02-13-2013   #9 (permalink)
JJMFP is offline Apprentice

4.6L Member


Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 132 Threads: 20
 JJMFP's Country Flag
Ocala   Florida
JJMFP is on a distinguished road
Default

i stopped parts at 1200 because you are going to want those gears....and someone is going to have to put those in. that is where labor will start coming into play.
__________________
Mustang in my Avatar is a good representation of what my car looks like right now. Soon it will be unique enough for me to take a picture and update with the real deal. 2002GT with Flow-master exhaust, K&N CAI, 3.73 gears. Roush Stage III Fascia in the garage and waiting for test fit:laughlitt

Practical Wishlist: 70mm Throttle body, Throttle body spacer, Tuner with Bama tunes Re-Paint Torch Red
JJMFP is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiTweet this Post!
Reply With Quote
Unread 02-13-2013   #10 (permalink)
RiderM2K is offline Rookie


Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 20 Threads: 1
 RiderM2K's Country Flag
V   Arizona
RiderM2K is on a distinguished road
Default

I'm not insulting but seems to me no one here knows what internal upgrades are. Not one person here has mentioned rods, pistons, valves or anything internal. Cause honestly the intake, exhaust and the other visible goodies can wait. Gears are all I've heard that's close to internal. I was just in another forum and had better answers there. But respectfully I appreciate your suggestions. Labor is not a problem in my garage
RiderM2K is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiTweet this Post!
Reply With Quote
Unread 02-13-2013   #11 (permalink)
JJMFP is offline Apprentice

4.6L Member


Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 132 Threads: 20
 JJMFP's Country Flag
Ocala   Florida
JJMFP is on a distinguished road
Default

you said 2k....you are looking to rebuild that engine. you are going to be hard pressed to have someone bore it out and replace pistons and internals for that much. we say bolt-ons first because you are going to want to get those anyway and they are a lot cheaper to "start"

"But I literally don't have an idea where to start sad to say I'm a car type of guy when it comes to hobbies but just don't know where to start."

this is why you are getting the answers you are. we are trying to give you a start. when you start talking about rods and pistons you start talking about someone taking your motor out of your car breaking it down and it cost cash.
__________________
Mustang in my Avatar is a good representation of what my car looks like right now. Soon it will be unique enough for me to take a picture and update with the real deal. 2002GT with Flow-master exhaust, K&N CAI, 3.73 gears. Roush Stage III Fascia in the garage and waiting for test fit:laughlitt

Practical Wishlist: 70mm Throttle body, Throttle body spacer, Tuner with Bama tunes Re-Paint Torch Red
JJMFP is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiTweet this Post!
Reply With Quote
Unread 02-13-2013   #12 (permalink)
pmanchin is offline Made Member

4.6L Member


Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 652 Threads: 85
 pmanchin's Country Flag  View pmanchin's HomePage
Salisbury   Maryland
pmanchin is on a distinguished road
Default

Typically no one worries about internals unless you're looking for serious power. The block can handle roughly 400rwh and 8-10 psi of forced induction is safe without internal upgrading. The rods are the weaklings in these motors. Most don't care to upgrade the insides unless they have huge plans that involve lots of time and money. Gears by far will give you the best feeling and vigor right short of forced induction. We don't have many looking to change the insides compared to just working with the stock block and beefing it up. You can make it plenty fast without the need for forged internals but it boils down to what you want and your goals.

Congrats on the car and welcome to the forum.

PDM Designers
__________________
Mods
Jegs Off-Road H-Pipe
MGW Short-Throw
K&N FIPK
S&R Lowering Springs
Flowmaster Super 10's
Exedy Mach 400 Stage 2
Custom Tuned by Performance Evolution
pmanchin is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiTweet this Post!
Reply With Quote
Unread 02-14-2013   #13 (permalink)
pmanchin is offline Made Member

4.6L Member


Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 652 Threads: 85
 pmanchin's Country Flag  View pmanchin's HomePage
Salisbury   Maryland
pmanchin is on a distinguished road
Default

Also, without the right suspenion on these cars, the tires spin like crazy. I would move suspension to a priority if it fits your budget.

PDM Designers
__________________
Mods
Jegs Off-Road H-Pipe
MGW Short-Throw
K&N FIPK
S&R Lowering Springs
Flowmaster Super 10's
Exedy Mach 400 Stage 2
Custom Tuned by Performance Evolution
pmanchin is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiTweet this Post!
Reply With Quote
Unread 02-14-2013   #14 (permalink)
RiderM2K is offline Rookie


Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 20 Threads: 1
 RiderM2K's Country Flag
V   Arizona
RiderM2K is on a distinguished road
Default

I respect you and your suggestions but I asked what internal upgrades regardless of my cash budget cause that's where id like to start off at. N like I said I was a Honda guy, before I fell in love with mustangs. I didn't upgrade it or put a dime in that car cause there's no point in upgrading a 4 banger. But my point is I knew a couple of things about Honda but not about a v8. Now the things you've mentioned and listed have been taken note of which I will indeed get and purchase in the future. But I know one thing and its before modding the car its more than common sense to start internally to prevent engine damage. It's my project car so it'll sit in my garage for a roughly 30 days till I show boat the car. Labor is not a problem.
RiderM2K is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiTweet this Post!
Reply With Quote
Unread 02-14-2013   #15 (permalink)
RiderM2K is offline Rookie


Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 20 Threads: 1
 RiderM2K's Country Flag
V   Arizona
RiderM2K is on a distinguished road
Default

please know everyone whos suggesting parts and knowledge its greatly appreciated
RiderM2K is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiTweet this Post!
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply   Post New Thread



Thread Tools



Mustang Photos
Mustang Links    Top Sites    RSS    Link To Us    Add to Favorites    Archive    Terms of Use    Site Rules    Privacy    Contact    Sponsors    Advertise   
AllFordMustangs is not affiliated with or endorsed by Ford Motor Company. ©Copyright 2002-2011 All Auto Enthusiasts Network

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164