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Old 06-01-2006   #1 (permalink)
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OK, so I've been battling heat issues with the car ever since the weather turned warmer. It's no sweat, I was expecting it. I've been driving my tuners batty with a bunch of questions about what parts would work now and in the future when I crank up the fun a bit more. I've decided on a AFCO Pro Series heat exchanger, for the intercooler. I just ordered that. Tomorrow I'm calling Randy Stinchcomb about a 03 Cobra radiator. So while I'm away in NY in a week or so, the car will be in the shop getting some upgrades so she can live with what I've done already. Also a friend and I cooked up a couple of ideas at work this morning to further cool the intake charge. We haven't quite figured a way to cool it below ambient temp, but we're not far from it at the moment. I'm seriously contemplating an external oil cooler too. I know I'm going to need one before long, but the oil seems to be holding up just fine so far. Both oil changes since the blower went on have not revealed any heat related issues with oil losing viscosity so I may just wait a while on that.
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What about those Boost Cooler? I just read an article saying that it lowered temperatures significantly. They are advertised in mm&ff and 5.0 mustang. Don't really know about supercharging yet though so this could be a silly suggestion.
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Those are for Centrifugal superchargers. Mine is positive displacement. The fact that my blower unit sits directly on top of the intake manifold limits my options in some areas.
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I've been worried about heat myself, especially after the temps this week. My car doesn't seem to have the pep it did in the cooler weather, but it's probably my imagination .
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Have you thought about water/methanol injection. I dont know much on how hard it is to work.
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You don't want to use meth/water injection in a positive displacement blower. The drop of moisture coming in contact with the moving parts inside the blower will cause damage and eventual failure of the blower.
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Ya that makes sense. On a Centrifuga blower you would put it after the blower. On yours it would be blowing through it. Dont they use methanol on drag cars.
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They burn methanol on drag cars, they don't use it for heat removal.


I just got home from ordering my Cobra radiator. It should be here Monday or Tuesday and the heat exchanger should be here Monday. I called DTP, Brent said they could do the install while I'm in NY. I might do the heat exchanger myself when it comes in though. I hate having to baby the car like this. I didn't spend an asston of cash on the blower to not be able to use it.
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If you're concerned about the heat, send a sample of your oil to be analyzed the nest time you do an oil change. They'll send back the results of what was found as well as viscosity levels. From what i've found in testing, is that most engines like 130*C oil sump temps, but hte key thing many forget is that when on the highway, your engine is constantly under load. Oil sump temps (in the pan) are almost irrelavant to the engine. Galley oil temps are the key things, and one thing many forget is that higher temp oil is actually needed for the bearings when the engine is under load.

But, everyone hurts their engines everytime they get off the highway, come home and just shut their car off. The engine is no longer under load, but the galley temps are through the roof, and should be cooled down before you completely shut the engine off. BUt, i'm like everyone else in the world, i'm not gonna sit and let the engine idle for 20 min after i get home LOL. I'm too impatient, lol.

As for cooling, i do like the remote oil idea. If you are handy at fabrication, i'd suggest you build an oil cooler for the motor, that you can operate manually. This way you can control the water flow going to it, depending on your situation (drag racing, cruising, highway driving, etc)
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I think you misunderstood a bit mark. The cooler we're devising is for the intercooler water only. The oil cooler I was referring to is nothing more than an off the shelf piece from summit. I just ordered it a couple minutes ago. It should be here in time to have installed with the radiator. Now that I've got all my heat issues dealt with. I need to start looking harder at the internals for this motor.

I haven't seen the oil sample analysis kits recently at any auto parts store. I'd love to send one off, if I could find the damn kit. Got any ideas of where I can find one? As for shutdown, I'm in a small minority in what I do. I actually have the timer on my watch set for 2 minutes. I start it when I get the car parked and just sit for 2 minutes. Mainly this is for the blower oil to cool off, but the oil galley temps benefit from this also. I know I could sit for another 3 and that would be better, or another 5 after that. There just comes a point where you just have to say, ok, this is the compromise.
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