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Old 10-10-2006   #16 (permalink)
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the problem with the GTOs are the weight, kinda like the new shelby is running same track numbers as the 03-04 cobras but 100hp more....

ls2 gto on a diet will beat a cobra especially an auto with tires off the line.... those lsx motors are very sneaky. ls1s react way better to nitrous vs the 4.6, but back to original question

04 GTO will be sorta even with a 99-01 cobra
04 gto should loose to a 03-04

05+gto beats a 99-01 cobra
05+gto will loose to a 03-04 because of weight


my g/f raced her dad
she at the time had a bone stock 2002 Trans am WS6 Auto (ls1) and her dad 05 GTO (ls2) auto, now if you go by HP ratings you think of well we know what will happen 325hp Trans vs 400hp GTO... wrong

they went from a 30mph roll and my g/f stayed right next to her dad and actually started creeping by at the middle of 3rd. i was surprised on how the two cars ran, GTo actually had a catback aswell.
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the problem with the GTOs are the weight, kinda like the new shelby is running same track numbers as the 03-04 cobras but 100hp more....

ls2 gto on a diet will beat a cobra especially an auto with tires off the line.... those lsx motors are very sneaky. ls1s react way better to nitrous vs the 4.6, but back to original question

04 GTO will be sorta even with a 99-01 cobra
04 gto should loose to a 03-04

05+gto beats a 99-01 cobra
05+gto will loose to a 03-04 because of weight


my g/f raced her dad
she at the time had a bone stock 2002 Trans am WS6 Auto (ls1) and her dad 05 GTO (ls2) auto, now if you go by HP ratings you think of well we know what will happen 325hp Trans vs 400hp GTO... wrong

they went from a 30mph roll and my g/f stayed right next to her dad and actually started creeping by at the middle of 3rd. i was surprised on how the two cars ran, GTo actually had a catback aswell.
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OK, moving this one to the Lounge, no tech to speak of in this one.
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OK, moving this one to the Lounge, no tech to speak of in this one.
hahahah shut up mr mod!
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the gto would get stomped - i have raced one with my mods - not saying i destroyed him but i was keeping up - he eventually pulled on me - but they arent nearly as fast as everybody thinks
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If weight were equal with a 03/04 Cobra and a LS2 GTO.. I still think the Cobra would take them... You forget that the rated Cobra hp isn't really 390, lol, more like 430bhp. The GTO weighs around 75-100lbs more then the Cobra - so it's not that much of a differance... an awesome run for a stock ls2 gto is around a 12.90x, an awesome run for a stock terminator cobra is in the 12.7 range... that's a pretty big difference imo... I lost but i definatly didn't lose by much to a LS2 GTO in my 2v when I had it, those things must be tough as heck to launch... lol

and I hate when people give me the "well you have a s/c, put a s/c on a gto and see how much you lose by" - it's not an excuse, you race what you have.
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and I hate when people give me the "well you have a s/c, put a s/c on a gto and see how much you lose by" - it's not an excuse, you race what you have.
Here at GM, we're putting s/c's on our new LS... er, i mean, we're making fuel efficient low powered V8's
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The GTO may be fast but it looks SO ghey lol. I mean, it looks like a frickin 4 door Toyota camry. C'mon, who makes fast 4 door cars anyway? Mitsubishi with their Evo 8?

They stopped producing those gay cars anyway. Thank God!

WTF was GM thinking on that one? Hey, let's build this fast/super gay looking car in Australia!
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The GTO may be fast but it looks SO ghey lol. I mean, it looks like a frickin 4 door Toyota camry. C'mon, who makes fast 4 door cars anyway? Mitsubishi with their Evo 8?

They stopped producing those gay cars anyway. Thank God!

WTF was GM thinking on that one? Hey, let's build this fast/super gay looking car in Australia!
I have to agree... they got the engine right, but the car totally wrong
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The GTO may be fast but it looks SO ghey lol. I mean, it looks like a frickin 4 door Toyota camry. C'mon, who makes fast 4 door cars anyway? Mitsubishi with their Evo 8?

They stopped producing those gay cars anyway. Thank God!

WTF was GM thinking on that one? Hey, let's build this fast/super gay looking car in Australia!
you do know they are 2 door cars?

anyway they got the engine and tranny and suspesion right, but I have to agree they look like a streched out cavalier or a grand prix.
but they sound good and run good. but an 04 cobra will beat em in all performance categories, period!!
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Don't give me wrong, I really like the looks of the GTO.

Slightly modded, I have my money on the 04 cobra.
$ 1K for pulley exhaust and chip will get the 03, 04 cobras to 500 RWHP....
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you do know they are 2 door cars?

anyway they got the engine and tranny and suspesion right, but I have to agree they look like a streched out cavalier or a grand prix.
but they sound good and run good. but an 04 cobra will beat em in all performance categories, period!!
my mistake...

I still don't like the way they look though lol. W/E
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They look a LOT like a Grand Prix, and there is NO WAY I would pay that kind of money for a glorified Grand Prix. I can shoehorn a V8 into anything if I want to badly enough.
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I Have A 97 Cobra With All The Bolt Ons . 410 In The Rear And I Pull About A Fender On Em.
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the cobra would beat it. i beat 04 GTO's all the time and im naturally aspirated
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