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Old 01-31-2007   #1 (permalink)
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i was just reading through all of my old times slips and was looking at all my 60 foot times. From stock to better tires and gears and other goodies, my 60 foot times have stayed the same, or close to it. my average is 2.63 to 2.8. once i pulled off a 2.2. the sad thing is, is once apon a time (when i was young and confused) i drove a nissan 200sx ricer and averaged 2.7 60' times but was running like 18's. I doesnt really feel like traction is an issue when taking off, but i guess it is. is it traction or because i have an auto? i know i probly need UCA's and LCA's but what else would improve my times. and are those times horrible? and what are good 60 ft times?
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Was that 2.2 your best ET as well? It definetely sounds like a traction issue as 2.2 should be your average. A 2.0 is excellent for street tires and some even dip into the 1.8-1.9's. Rule of thumb, every .1 taken off your 60' is good for .2 on your ET, which sounds about right in your case. Knock .6-.7 off of your 60' and you should hit high 13's, based on your 15.2 from the other thread. The auto trans might make it a little more difficult, but many here have done it.
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Must be a really crappy track if you never can get the tires to hook !

I ran a 2.8 `60 and that got me a 15.0 , so you have a low 14 or high 13 stang , just get that beast to hook and your fine !

It could be how high your track is , do you know ?
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Definately track prep is major and learning how to launch you should be more consistant with a AUTO, i pulled a 1.97 60ft on 245/45 street tires and i still had some track issues.... its harder to keep same thing over and over with a manual but hey thats part of the fun.

one day ill have a built rear and ill just let off at 6 grand every time on slicks =)
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How are you launching? Do you powerbrake?
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when you launch hold brake down and press gas till you feel the tires are about to spin.... try to do this quickly and almost when light hits green because you dont wanna over load the converter .
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Your 1st issue with your 60' is your tire and rim size. No flex of a sidewall so your not going to hook. You can spend the money on the suspension but without a soft tire like a Drag Radial you won't see a 2.00 average for a 60'. What is your MPH at the 1/8 and at the 1/4?
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Your 1st issue with your 60' is your tire and rim size. No flex of a sidewall so your not going to hook. You can spend the money on the suspension but without a soft tire like a Drag Radial you won't see a 2.00 average for a 60'. What is your MPH at the 1/8 and at the 1/4?
Somewhat agree, those 18's aren't helping at all, but you don't need DR's to average a 2.0.
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Somewhat agree, those 18's aren't helping at all, but you don't need DR's to average a 2.0.

shoot my 17s suck for hooking i cant imagine 18s.... no sidewall blows... no drs needed for 2.0.. i average 2.0 every time i go usually

i have done 1.9x more than twice.
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when you launch hold brake down and press gas till you feel the tires are about to spin.... try to do this quickly and almost when light hits green because you dont wanna over load the converter .
^ hit the nail on the head !
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shoot my 17s suck for hooking i cant imagine 18s.... no sidewall blows... no drs needed for 2.0.. i average 2.0 every time i go usually

i have done 1.9x more than twice.
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lol, you guys are funny. ^ yea i try to flash the convertor, but i think i probly overload it. why does overloading it hurt your times? my mid mph is around 72-75 and my trap speed averages 92 mph.
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HMMM, well if you go too much it increases the liklihood of spinning the tires. How much do you rev it to and how hard do you hold the brake? You generally dont want it to the floor, and youre going to want to come out of the hole (no sex remarks lol) at around 2500-3000 rpms probably, so you probably want to get it to around 2500 rpms against the brake, hopefully they wont spin too much. If they do, launch lower. I could be wrong on that, I dont race 5.0s, dont own one, plan to soon but my limited experience comes from mch more torquey big blocks. You want a little spin. I dont know anything about your tires, so I dont know where you will start to spin.
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overloading hurts it yea.. i forget the exact reason.... a good mod for you to get is a stall converter along with some 373s or 410s maybe.... (might be too much without drag radials) stall converter will allow you to lift up the rpms to higher rpm than you could with stock one.. 3500stall would be good for you.

i know a guy with a 01 WS6, he went 13.5 stock he put a 4000rpm stall and mt et streets on it and ran 12.5... just with that and catback i believe.


crazy...

hell try this just come off the line without torque braking just let go brake and floor it see if that helps... the key to getting a good 60ft leaving the line without a bog-down or wheel spin... usually you get one or the other....
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lol, you guys are funny. ^ yea i try to flash the convertor, but i think i probly overload it. why does overloading it hurt your times? my mid mph is around 72-75 and my trap speed averages 92 mph.

another thing you could do is, why not get some spare 16inch v6 rims and put some micky thompson et drag radials on it... since your car is auto you have less like of hurting something due to the good hooking-ness of the tire. someone on here i believe has same mods i have but with a 3500stall and 410 gears and hes in mid to upper 12s with those tires.....
its all in suspension and tires. i have seen cars set up with 240rwhp run into 12s...
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