well, i had the KC clutch installed, and i must say it feels better and I like it a lot, but it feels tougher at the same time. Now, with all that done, I have a huge question.
Almost 2 years ago when I bought the car, I had taken it to ford to have it checked. They told me I needed a new clutch, flywheel, pressure plate, etc. So I had them replace it... ended up costing me over 1 grand to get it done (had some other things done to).. yea won't do that again. But anyways, yesterday when I get the old clutch out (the one ford installed), I notice that it is a 're-manufactured' clutch(it says it on the back, how convenient). Now back then I asked for a new one to be installed, and I didn't know re-manufactured was new ?? The part number(s) they sold me were:
F3ZZ-7563-AA - Pressure Plate - $124.35
F5ZZ-7550-A - Clutch Disc - $107.81
F8PZ-12259-HA - Kit (???) -$100.65 - No clue
Then of course comes the labor... bleh.
Does anyone know if those part numbers listed below are "re-manufactured" parts? Or did Ford f*** me over big time and I didn't catch it? I just don't want to look stupid if I bring it back to them and ask for the money back for a piece of sh!t clutch and the parts i bought were actually re manufactured (probably wont happen of course, the money.)
I've never heard of a remanufactured clutch, but I'm sure if they do that, they're just as good as a new stock replacement.
I liked my KC when I first got it, the pedal was just as light as stock and it held the 100 shot. Once I fellt how the Spec Stage 2 grabbed, I couldn't go back to a KC! It grabs so well I snapped an axle!!!
Most of the parts you but now days are remanufactured. Even the brake pads you purchase are remanufactured.
Depending on how hard you are on clutches, 2 years is not to bad. Dealerships usually rip you a new one. Find you a backyard mechanic ( one that has a good rep) and pay them to install. I have a programmer friend, his dad is a mechanic. He is awesome, better than most mechanics that are out there today.
Most mechanics at dealerships are interns, new hire, or just graduated where I am from. How I know, my other friend is a master mechanic and graduated most of them!
Rich
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96 cobra, 4:10 gears, K&N cold air induction, BBK long tube headers, BBK high flow cats, king cobra clutch.
"If I am ticking you off, then I must be speaking the truth"
Most mechanics at dealerships are interns, new hire, or just graduated where I am from.......
Completely untrue...how do I know? I was a dealership mechanic for Ted Russel Ford in Knoxville. I was the only one at that time out of 25 mechanics that was new there or right out of school(which I wasn't) or an 'intern'. That's 24 guys that didn't fit that description. When I left there, I went back home to Florida and went right back into a dealership in Ft. Pierce.. Sunrise Ford to be exact. Once again, out of 20+ guys, I was the only 'new' guy there.
everyone else there had been there at least 3 years and the established techs had over 20+years in the same dealership.
sandage058:
Remanufactured parts are simply 'rebuilt' parts that are rebuilt to new part specs and standards. Nothing wrong with them and it does save you money. You did get raped it sounds like but that is NOT uncommon in a dealership setting. Take it from me(personal inside experience), at $70+/hr labor rate, the techs are usually underpaid and are doing it on flat rate pay scale, we/they will do everything they can to get the most out of a job that is legal. If it is warranty work, the rule of thumb was if you were an English major(or one was working there), write it all down, from removing bolts, to measuring specs and every little thing you did to a particular car and the more money you make. People(techs) always complained about doing warranty work. Me personally, I like to write. I made more money on warranty work then any other tech in the shop. In fact, I use to have techs come to me(the new guy) to write it up for them, so they could make as much as possible on the job.
I didn't work in the dealerships to make a carreer out of it. I wanted to learn as much as I could so I could fix my own stuff and possibly make some $$$ on the side because I was tired of getting raped by every Tom, Dick and Harry mechanic out there. Now I have the knowledge and can fix my cars(most of the time) and even help a buddy out if needed and I work for beer.
Obamacare my a$$ We are all going to pay for electing this tool.
Remember, it is almost impossible for anyone, myself included, to diagnose a problem over the internet without seeing the car. My advice is simply that, advice based on years of experience. I don't want you or anyone taking my word as gospel. I am trying to give some direction as to what I think may be happening.
Only have one last question... Is there a price difference between a re-manufactured and a NEW part? (i.e. Clutch) That's the only thing I'm wondering, if I actually purchased a new clutch for a new price, or was given a re-manufactured clutch at that new price (if there's a difference in price). If not, screw it, life will go on...
"Completely untrue...how do I know? I was a dealership mechanic for Ted Russel Ford in Knoxville." Wow, are you still there?
"When I left there, I went back home to Florida and went right back into a dealership in Ft. Pierce"
So why am I wrong? You correct me, then say you left the dealership to go somewhere else??? You help me make my point, so I want to thank you!
It is possible to see experienced people at dealerships...yes.... but very rare. I have NEVER in my 40 years had a good experience with dealerships. My whole family (including my mom) will tell you how big morons they are at dealerships. Mom never curses!!! My dad will call you a dumb arse if you defended them! HAHA!!
my friend Mark, who works at a Ford dealership, said that he has to retrains alot of mechanics at his dealership. Hmmmm, my car is an experiment for a new hire? Stay away from dealerships at all cost!
sandage058
1000+ for a clutch install is high even with other work. Stay away from dealerships at all cost. If anything. You paid 331.00 for the clutch & kit. I paid 209.00 for king cobra clutch and around $200 ( this weekend to be exact) to have the clutch installed. Check around for prices. We all want good quality work but for reasonable prices.
Good luck!
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96 cobra, 4:10 gears, K&N cold air induction, BBK long tube headers, BBK high flow cats, king cobra clutch.
"If I am ticking you off, then I must be speaking the truth"
"Completely untrue...how do I know? I was a dealership mechanic for Ted Russel Ford in Knoxville." Wow, are you still there?
"When I left there, I went back home to Florida and went right back into a dealership in Ft. Pierce"
So why am I wrong? You correct me, then say you left the dealership to go somewhere else??? You help me make my point, so I want to thank you!
It is possible to see experienced people at dealerships...yes.... but very rare. I have NEVER in my 40 years had a good experience with dealerships. My whole family (including my mom) will tell you how big morons they are at dealerships. Mom never curses!!! My dad will call you a dumb arse if you defended them! HAHA!!
my friend Mark, who works at a Ford dealership, said that he has to retrains alot of mechanics at his dealership. Hmmmm, my car is an experiment for a new hire? Stay away from dealerships at all cost!
sandage058
1000+ for a clutch install is high even with other work. Stay away from dealerships at all cost. If anything. You paid 331.00 for the clutch & kit. I paid 209.00 for king cobra clutch and around $200 ( this weekend to be exact) to have the clutch installed. Check around for prices. We all want good quality work but for reasonable prices.
Good luck!
Boy, you really are coming across as a dillweed.
Of course people change jobs, that's what happens. MY POINT IS not 'most' mechanics in a dealership are newbies(such as yourself here on AFM).
I'm tired of debating this with a newbie.....have a good day.
Obamacare my a$$ We are all going to pay for electing this tool.
Remember, it is almost impossible for anyone, myself included, to diagnose a problem over the internet without seeing the car. My advice is simply that, advice based on years of experience. I don't want you or anyone taking my word as gospel. I am trying to give some direction as to what I think may be happening.
New King Cobra clutch installed! 
My dad will call you a dumb arse if you defended them! HAHA!!
