The Ram Air myth...

Twokingsracer · 07-31-2003

No doubt...they look awesome. I just cant convince my buddy with the 69 Mach 1 that the factory snorkle on top of his 428 SCJ doesnt do squat.

Mana4Real · 08-01-2003

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lol some guy bought one of those electric 12v fans off of ebay. They are called like an "electric supercharger". Well the fan broke off and went down into his intake.. They are garbage, lol but i'm sure we have all seen that leaf blower hooked up an intake picture.

I saw a hair drier hooked up to a roller blade wheel with some tubes off it once... I just about died laughing. Some guy made a huge write up about it. It was the biggest joke.

akaakbiker · 08-01-2003

A leaf blower huh? Hmmm. Now that's sumthin I hadn't thought of. Maybe if it was a realy big comercial grade leaf blower... Na. Even if it worked the two stroke whine would be realy annoying. Maybe I'll try it on my dad's riding lawnmower...

Mana4Real · 08-01-2003

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A leaf blower huh? Hmmm. Now that's sumthin I hadn't thought of. Maybe if it was a realy big comercial grade leaf blower... Na. Even if it worked the two stroke whine would be realy annoying. Maybe I'll try it on my dad's riding lawnmower...

Well if you calculate the extra weight to the 1-2 psi increase in boost... Nah it's not gonna work

bababooey · 08-03-2003

How many tire air pumps (putting out 250 psi each) would it take to raise the PSI of air to your intake by 1? I seriously want to know.

What do the Mach 1 shaker hoods do? Are they just mythical power too?

Twokingsracer · 08-03-2003

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How many tire air pumps (putting out 250 psi each) would it take to raise the PSI of air to your intake by 1? I seriously want to know.
What do the Mach 1 shaker hoods do? Are they just mythical power too?

On the first part I have no idea.

On the second part they have proven that the Mach 1 shaker hood is worthless. It sets too low in the path of the air...in fact it is in a low pressure zone to begin with. The same engine with a normal air intake produces the same HP/TQ. The best place to scavenge air is on the base of the windshield or take the right front headlight out and run a straight peice of PVC to the mass air.

GT_MUSTANG20034 · 08-04-2003

I have to say u are right.I had ram air for both my Mustangs.Only thing I could see it doing is keeping your engine cooler.I notice it felt better when it was cooler with all the air going in but I say that cause I knew my engine was getting fresh blasts of air.Other then that spend the money on something else.It looks cool though

JayC · 08-09-2003

I agree that fancy "Ram Air" set-ups more than likely do very little or nothing at the track. One intake mod that I and several others have proven countless times at the track, is removing the passenger side headlight on the 99+ GT's. I consistently see a solid .1 and 1 mph with this mod. Removing the air silencer or cutting away the air box ( mine is cut big-time) is a must to allow the cooler air a shot into the filter.
Recently at CorralDay 03 I ran a 13.77 @ 100.33 right off the road in horrid conditions. While in the staging lanes I pulled the headlight ( takes 15 sec.) and ran a 13.62 @101.48 with the same 60', shift points and no cool-down. Give it a try next time you're out........it may work for you.

Twokingsracer · 08-10-2003

I see a lot of guys doing that at the track...and yes it works.

1BadGTP · 08-11-2003

Thank You Mr. Wizard…

That was a fine explanation of how RAM AIR is bogus. I think the concept of ram air is to get cooler air to the intake!

Can you be so good as to explain how my 4-door GTP Grand Prix with a little 3.8 consistently smokes the panties off you V-6 Mustang owners?

Twokingsracer · 08-11-2003

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Thank You Mr. Wizard… That was a fine explanation of how RAM AIR is bogus. I think the concept of ram air is to get cooler air to the intake!

The concept of ram air was to dupe uninformed car enthusiasts into beleiving that the little hood scoops on their GTO's and TA's and other vehicles would actually give them a benefit through introducing more air into the engine. That is a documented fact. I dont care what the concept anyone today believes is behind the term Ram Air, it is misleading in the least.

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Can you be so good as to explain how my 4-door GTP Grand Prix with a little 3.8 consistently smokes the panties off you V-6 Mustang owners?

You have the wrong forum pal...we drive 4.6L GT's and Cobras....and you aint spanking the panties off of any of us.

Dennis Simmons · 08-11-2003

Actually the GTO Judge with 366 hp and 475 lbs of torque was plenty fast thankyou with or without Ram Air on, but the chicks usto dig pullen the lever. Man It had A nice back seat too.

12amracer · 08-11-2003

So if a person went to a ram air setup, according to this he shouldnt pick up any more time right?

Twokingsracer · 08-11-2003

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So if a person went to a ram air setup, according to this he shouldnt pick up any more time right?

Nobody said that. Where did you get that idea? The point of this thread is that ram air, or its perceived effect...does not exist. The only benefit a ram air kit is giving is that it introduces cool air to the filter...same as a CAI, which is only marginally successful when compared to its advertised numbers.

12amracer · 08-11-2003

Ok I see whatch talkin about.