[PETESGT]

I'm going to go w/ a KB2.1 blower for my stock 2v motor (60k miles) I'm planning on running 9lbs of boost.

My questions are by looking at the KB site, can a 2.1 (which is the upgraded 1.7) now run a max of 14lbs of boost? Use to be only 9 I thought? ( I am schooled on the stock motor and max power to push)

Ok, so lets say it can go 14? Then with a future upgrade of a motor say, TF Heads, Cams, and Forged Short Block from MMR, stroked to a 5.0, (or even a 5.3) the KB 2.1 would still be productive, am I correct in that assumption? I know not as productive as 2.6 blower, but I have as most do a budget and other Mustangs.


Current Mods, LT Headers, O/R X, gears etc. I'm itching to buy this blower and can do it like tommarow, but I am looking for compatability to a motor later on down the road. Guess Im just trying to eleviate buying this blower than having to sel it just to replace it with a 2.6.

Thanks gang!

[klrblue04]

well on kb's website it says that the 2.6l can do the 9psi you would be safe with. if you plan on going big later(not too much later though) i would go ahead with the 2.6l.... and as far as driveablity they still have their test car on pump gas with the 2.6

[klrblue04]

here's a very informative link off kenne bell's website

http://www.kennebell.net/techinfo/fo...chTips_26L.pdf

[BRENSTANG03]

If your car is stock stay at 9psi you can always put a smaller pulley on when you do the internals ,im only at 6psi and my belt slips sometimes but it has been an ok kit

[PETESGT]

Originally Posted by BRENSTANG03

If your car is stock stay at 9psi you can always put a smaller pulley on when you do the internals ,im only at 6psi and my belt slips sometimes but it has been an ok kit

This has all been helpful, I think Im just tired. Yes 9psi with a stock motor and then (budget minded) I can pull that motor and do it up with forged and go a smaller pulley on the 2.1 bringing it to 14psi, correct?

Cause if thats the case Ill be happy with that and thats lookin at right around 500hp...blah blah blah...lol

Ill just be happy to ditch the 250ish hp of slowness at this point. But the majority of my buget is and has gone into my 93

Pete

[BRENSTANG03]

Originally Posted by PETESGT

This has all been helpful, I think Im just tired. Yes 9psi with a stock motor and then (budget minded) I can pull that motor and do it up with forged and go a smaller pulley on the 2.1 bringing it to 14psi, correct?

Cause if thats the case Ill be happy with that and thats lookin at right around 500hp...blah blah blah...lol

Ill just be happy to ditch the 250ish hp of slowness at this point. But the majority of my buget is and has gone into my 93

Pete

correct It is like a new whole car with the blower on no more slow lol,i was on a limited buget on mine wish i went the 9psi route oh well i guess.

[PETESGT]

Originally Posted by BRENSTANG03

correct It is like a new whole car with the blower on no more slow lol,i was on a limited buget on mine wish i went the 9psi route oh well i guess.

Yep and that concludes this thread I guess.

I just wanted something than just 9psi w/ this blower and since is goes to 14 (with supporting motor) this will do just fine. I just am not in a position to buy a motor, and blower all at once (and lets forget about the tranny and traction issues) I just gotta be able to keep up to the wife when we go out on cruises (see sig block).

And I see your from MN, glad Favre is working out for you guys, Im originally from G.B. no longer a packer fan, just a Favre fan

[BRENSTANG03]

Originally Posted by PETESGT

Yep and that concludes this thread I guess.

I just wanted something than just 9psi w/ this blower and since is goes to 14 (with supporting motor) this will do just fine. I just am not in a position to buy a motor, and blower all at once (and lets forget about the tranny and traction issues) I just gotta be able to keep up to the wife when we go out on cruises (see sig block).

And I see your from MN, glad Favre is working out for you guys, Im originally from G.B. no longer a packer fan, just a Favre fan

At 9psi you will be around 402 hp more then the cobra

[miltongon1]

9 should be fine dont push your motor to hard with more than 9lbs keep the torque around 400 more may damage the rods

[mell0]

yeah it will churn out 9psi with the pulley they give you in the kit. more boost is just a pulley change away (like you previously stated) and the blower will only make your future mods [stroker (make sure to keep stock compression or lower it), heads/cams (remember blower cams), longtubes, etc] even more productive.

oh and how on earth can you be living with yourself if your wife has a terminator?

[jgorm]

If you plan on going with a forged engine, then the 2.1 will be too small. These things choke at over about 12 psi and the IATs will be SUPER high. I've see 190s on an intercooled 2v at 14psi, it was the 1.7, but the 2.1 is not much better, if any.

[grn 00 gt]

If you do plan on going bigger later, get the 2.6 and pulley it down to the 9#. The bigger blower will turn slower to give you the same boost which will in turn create less heat.

I have had my Saleen Series IV twin screw 1.6L kit for 2 1/2 years and over 40,000 miles on it. I installed the kit at 78,412 miles and it now has over 119,000 on it. Just make sure to monitor the IAT (inlet air temps post blower/intercooler) and watch your air fuel and you should be fine.
I have been running the 8-9# kit intercooled for most of the 40,000 miles and it has been a blast.

Avoid these common mistakes below and you will be fine...

Don't let your engine oil level go below full.
Don't run your car hard in extreme cold weather (less than 25-30*F).
Don't modify your kit unless the tune is corrected for those mods.

[PETESGT]

Originally Posted by mell0

yeah it will churn out 9psi with the pulley they give you in the kit. more boost is just a pulley change away (like you previously stated) and the blower will only make your future mods [stroker (make sure to keep stock compression or lower it), heads/cams (remember blower cams), longtubes, etc] even more productive.

oh and how on earth can you be living with yourself if your wife has a terminator?

When a wife build's me a 93 with a 6spd 347 monster, while Im deployed for a year......um she can have anything she wants!!!!

[PETESGT]

Thanks green, yeah Ive seen ya around on the boards. I think Im going to end up with the 2.1 for now. Then if I need to Ill get a new forged short block from MMR and go 14psi later on. With as much money as I have into my 93....it's more just about getting past the slowness that is a stock 2000GT. I still gotta upgrade the clutch, and MAYBE the tranny in the 2000. With the 2.2 I believe, and please correct me if Im wrong, just to run the 9psi on it, yo uhave to upgrade and change the fuel system, tune it, and dial it in? And then even w/ that at 9psi its putting out more power that 9psi on the 2.1 which would take it over the limit of the stock motor?

Ive got a few min to kill Ill look KB site over again, and if need be Ill give em a call in the morning.

----and the fuel system has to be upgraded anyways anything after 450hp. Hmmmm maybe I should just sell this car and go out and start with real fast, and go fassssssster lol but damn I dont want any more car payments ...

[grn 00 gt]

The 2000 GT is a pretty tight engine, I am still running the stock fuel pump with the Kenne Bell BAP set at 30%.

Even with 119,000 miles the engine doesn't smoke or buck and I haven't ever had the valve covers or oil pan off of it, in fact the alternator, water pump and ALL the accessories are the original OEM pieces.

Just make sure you run a safe tune and don't go above ~11.4 on the air fuel ratio at WOT.

The tune and fuel are the MOST important parts of keeping it running for long.

Don't focus so much on Boost #'s as much as RWHP, the boost will drop if you get better flowing heads and exhaust and can mislead. Try to stay around 400 whp and it should stay together a long time with a conservative tune and intercooling.

Anytime you change the boost level, you have to upgrade the fuel system, tune and other supporting mods like the efficiency of the intercooler and restrictions in the inlet and exhaust systems.