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Question new 5.0 fit in 1997 Mustang?

will a brand new 5.0 fit in a 97 gt? will all the motor mounts line up or will they have to be custom
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I would assume they would need to be custom, then again its a mod motor maybe it would.


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Help us understand what you are trying to accomplish and your skill level.

The easiest way to do this is by swapping the K-member and motor mounts from a 94-95 Model Year.

Are you aware that the transmission bolt pattern is different as well? If manual, it would be possible to swap bell housing depending upon which transmission. If automatic, a matching transmission would be needed.

What are your plans for engine management (PCM)?

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I am guessing he means the "new" 5.0 coming in the 2011 mustangs. If so yes but as discussed before its a 10k deal. 6k for the motor, 3 k for the harness and ecu, +1k for install costs.

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OH...a "new" 5.0 DOHC modular motor. I assumed it was a newly re-man OHV 5.0. My bad for not reading carefully.

Well the new 5.0 is a modular motor. The motor mounts and transmission bolt pattern are the same.

I repeat the request for information regarding the OP's skill level. This will not be a plug and play swap. The new 5.0 has a drive by wire throttle. The intake is on the car's left side. The engine wiring harness is totally different. The requirements for engine management is totally different. There will be issues integrating an add on engine management PCM with the car's PCM.

The issues continue to grow should an attempt be made to let the new PCM control the entire car. Issues such as automatic transmission shift control. Cluster, lights, seat belt minders, air bags, ABS, fan control, and the list goes on.

Depending on the OP's skill level and goals, this project could run the all the way from "cool" to diaster.

My recommendation. Unless your skill level is very high especially in the electrical area, consider a "kit" power adder. Well designed complete kits are available from KB and other super charger makers. Some can come close to making 400 HP and may acutally have a greater chance of project sucess. The complete cost would be less than half of the number mentioned.

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It would probably be better to wait for a totaled 2011 mustang to show up at the local wrecking yard and buy it complete. Otherwise like I said $10k project. Were you can get the same power plus some for less as wmburns suggested. Besides 10K is about double what the OP car is worth.

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It would be nice if Ford would offer some kinda "universal" 5.0 package/ECU/pedal... like Chevy has for the LS motors....
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i can come up with 10k to do it i have done a couple rebuilds and swaps all on tuners nothing with changing out the whole wire harness and all that
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IMO it would make far more sense to put a modular 5.0 in a 2005+ Mustang. This would greatly reduce the amount of car body harness re-work needed. The 5.0 PCM can actually operate the car. The car will retain more of it's stock feel/function/driveability.

What follows is my opinion. I don't really see how this project makes sense. It's a huge amount of work and cost just to get to the 400 HP level.

The internals of the new mod 5.0 will limit power levels to about 400 HP and not much (if any) higher.

With a 10k budget, one could get a BUILT 4.6 and power adder and make WAY more than 400 HP. In addition, the car's wiring system would not have to be re-engineered to accomdate a totally new PCM and throttle by wire system.

However, it would make a great build thread. So good luck to you.

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Im with wmburns on this one.


It would be a huge huge job and the "work,money/result ratio" is way off.

but it would be totaly bad@$$ if you did it cuz I dont think anyone has done it yet.

so eather way good luck

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