Just wondering what everyone thinks, what one is the better supercharger, and best price? I am looking to start saving for one, but i want the best gains and best price. I am also curious of what mods i should have before i have the supercharger, and what else i should buy with the supercharger. (my mods are on my signature) Thanks!!!
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Im a big fan of the kenne bell unit which is a simillar to a roots type supercharger, with a kenne bell kit you get everything you need from injectors to a computer chip, fuel pump, etc. and the supercharger itself, its a complete great kit, so while it seems like a lot, by the time you add all in a fuel pump, injectors, a computer chip, etc. its getting pretty close. Not to mention the 96-98 kit is intercooled and gains 151 hp at 6 psi. This blower will rumble torque compared to a centrifugal super, it will have so much more lower end it wont be funny !!
Check it out at kennebell.net
hope this helps
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ok ok ok - since I have been schooled on this recently I am going to regurgitate what was told to me.
Go with Centrifugal - Procharger has a good kit and it comes with either a two core or three core intercooler - Kenne bell which is actually a twin screw supercharger is great for low end torque however it is not as good with high end as a centrifugal - i called the guy at Arizona Mustang PErformance asking this question - they are always in the magazines regarding wins with there race cars and stuff like that.
Also when I was looking at kenne bell it was like 5 to 6 grand for the blower with the intercooler - as the procharger is 4150 to my house with a 3 core intercooler and I have 01 yours would be cheaper since you have a 97 - check out www.rpmoutlet.com - this is the kit - which includes the tuner, blower, intercooler, fuel pump, belt, injectors - also you need to take into account the extra add on's
New Spark plugs, lower control arms, subframe connectors, performance break pads or increasing your break size - cuz ur going to have to slow down a little harder.
These are all the things I have taken into account from the advice I have gotten from blue streak and funky boss and many other cats on this forum.
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I have a procharger and i'm very happy with it. Soundwave has a good point about the pricing , by the time its all said and done not sure its much cheaper to go with the pro/vortech set ups. Which one is better, not sure but i have heard the same thing as so money says . Dont think i helped much but got my 2 cents in lol.
The classic debate, unfortunately I don't think there are any Vortech guys on here to make it interesting. All good points made above, however, add wantever you want to centrifiguls, an equally equiped KB setup is going to cost more. I think bluestreak would vouch for me on this one, I was shocked when I saw his total with install.
Now, onto the actual question at hand, Procharger vs. Vortech! I'll go with the pro's and con's method for each:
Procharger Pro's:
- Intercooler included with kit
- 4.10:1 step-up ratio
- RPMOutlet sells with injectors, fuel pump, and tuner
- Self contained oil system (and changing the oil is easy no matter what anyone else says)
Procharger Con's:
- P-1SC has been known for leaky seals
- Customer service
Vortech Pro's
- No known leak issues
Vortech Con's
- Smaller step-up ratio (3.45:1)
- install requires tapping the oil pan
- no intercooler included with basic kit
Well, thats my take on it. If I had it to do all over again, I would probably go with a KB.
I dont know how a KB is going to even be close to the same price. I got my S/C to my door for $4200 thats D-1sc & 3 core intercooler. It was going to be over $5500 for the KB. And thats the smaller KB that is only rated for 14psi, which if more then your car can handle but what if you want to upgrade later. I would go with twin turbos before I put that much for a KB. I am hoping to have my car done in a couple more weeks but I am tring to get an aluminum block from my mechanic right now so that will probably add more time. I say go with procharger for the price "thats what I did"
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$5,900 for a new Kenne Bell with all the goodies. Trust me, my wife constantly reminds me how much I spent on it. The good part is tht you install it yourself and dont need it tuned. That should save you some money.
Just wondering what everyone thinks, what one is the better supercharger, and best price? I am looking to start saving for one, but i want the best gains and best price. I am also curious of what mods i should have before i have the supercharger, and what else i should buy with the supercharger. (my mods are on my signature) Thanks!!!
Get a Vortech......You won't regret it......Looks like you had a FPregulator already so you may just need a Better fuel pump. (Vortech provides one in the kit.)
If you want more PSI then get a smaller pulley.....I went form 3" to 2.65" You may be able to get away with a 2.9" pulley)
I have the interccooler as well. (air to water). Tapping the oil pan is completely a NON-Issue. I would suggest an Alum. Moroso 7qt pan that has the necessary fitting outlets so there is no "taping the pan".
Also....Do not use Vortech's crappy hoses for the oil return and "To" lines...go Steel braded and use -an fittings. My return leaked.
mODS BEFORE sc-----75mm tb, Plenum, SCT maff
After Install..Tune and dyno..SCT only..... (Diablo sux arse)
Also, ditch those restrictive Flowmasters and get SLP pipes...you will make more power!
The classic debate, unfortunately I don't think there are any Vortech guys on here to make it interesting. All good points made above, however, add wantever you want to centrifiguls, an equally equiped KB setup is going to cost more. I think bluestreak would vouch for me on this one, I was shocked when I saw his total with install.
Now, onto the actual question at hand, Procharger vs. Vortech! I'll go with the pro's and con's method for each:
Procharger Pro's:
- Intercooler included with kit
- 4.10:1 step-up ratio
- RPMOutlet sells with injectors, fuel pump, and tuner
- Self contained oil system (and changing the oil is easy no matter what anyone else says)
Procharger Con's:
- P-1SC has been known for leaky seals
- Customer service
Vortech Pro's
- No known leak issues
Vortech Con's
- Smaller step-up ratio (3.45:1)
- install requires tapping the oil pan
- no intercooler included with basic kit
Well, thats my take on it. If I had it to do all over again, I would probably go with a KB.
BTW, no leaky seals just yet (knock on wood)!!!
4.10:1 step up ratio?? ARE YOU REFERRING TO REAR END GEARS?
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Procharger Vs. Vortech 
