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Old 06-16-2008   #1 (permalink)
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Going to be putting together a new 302. been looking and looking and thinking and thinking and this is what i got. what do you think of the cam...i chose this over a crane cams solid flat tappet one. heres the run down.

650 holley dp
Parker intake
ProComp 210cc heads 2.05 1.60
277cfm at .600 lift
TRW flat top pistons (10.3:1)
Scat 4340 I beams
CompCams Magnum 286HR
Advertised duration 286/286
Duration at .050 230/230
Lift .598/.598
Lobe Seperation 110
Intake centerline 106
Mac longtubes 1 3/4 primary 3 collector
3" x pipe
3" flowmasters (thinking 40 serious)

this isnt going to fit under a stock hood so im going to have to do some sorta scoop. thinking about making my own shaker setup?? any ideas or comments on this?? should be ready for vernon burnen in late august.
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That's going to be one nasty engine. Cam's a good choice, it'll match up well with the heads.
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thanks eagle, any ideas on hp #? also what do you think of the compression ratio?? i was thinking of milling the heads to get it closer to 11:1. im going to be running an old (still new in the box) edelbrock vera-jection, edelbrocks old electronic water injection.
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that gonna be a Bad Mother_ _ _ _ _ _

Hp 525 conserative estimate.....

i would like to see a fox with a shaker or could good the Boss 429 type scoop....

or be like the rest of the fox world with a 4" cowl.....
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525 hu.....thats the ball park i was looking for . and i wanna get a 150hp shot on there too. just dont know if the block will hold that . gonna have to go with a tko or t-56....prob the tko 600. the boss scoop would be cool but it would have to be taller than stock....and i will not run a cowl hood gotta be the scoop
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you should be able to get away with the 150 shot

but i would do that only on a race fuel tune....
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you should be able to get away with the 150 shot

but i would do that only on a race fuel tune....
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you my friend have the wrong carb.... and need a dual pattern cam......vacuum will be a issue
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wrong carb??? care to explain....and the dual pattern cam....you kinda got a point but this is the only cam with near .600 lift i could find that didnt have 245 or higher duration at .050 so im willing to sacrifice and i could care less about the vacume......wouldnt mind going manual brakes actually.
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wrong carb??? care to explain....and the dual pattern cam....you kinda got a point but this is the only cam with near .600 lift i could find that didnt have 245 or higher duration at .050 so im willing to sacrifice and i could care less about the vacume......wouldnt mind going manual brakes actually.

that would not be a problem you can always add the vacuum storage canister or go manual brakes ....the bonus on that you save the weight of the power brake booster....with the power you are making i'm sure you will be upgrading the brakes if you haven't already.....
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well i have upgraded to rear disk brakes but i was thinking of going with the 13" front cobra brakes.
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and try to stop those big ass brakes....
man to make that carb work with those big 2.05 heads will take some$$$$$ I would get a 750 demon or a aed carb.....something with 4 corner adjustments
what is the car's main use..the track?
I would go with a manual rack from a granada...just like a flaming river but 1/3 cost
as for the cam..I would in this case get a custom cam...it's about 100 bux more but worth it in this case
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really a granada manual is the same as the flaming river?? wow thats good to know. i dont think i would have a prob with this cars breaks weight should be 2800 or so. care to give me some specs that you think would be good?? i have a computer program that lets me put a cam in and run it. but i need like intake open and close both at .005 and .050 and lift duration intake lob sep. intake centerline yada yada. as for the carb, if the budget permits i would love to get a demon but prob a 725 or so manybe a 750. as for use.......... its the daily driver as long as the day is nice.
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got some before and after pics of the engine bay
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I must have misread something here. Are we talking about a stock block? If so how can you guys estimate 525 hp + 150 shot and not see a problem?

Does anybody think a stock 302 block will hold 675 hp? Let's get real here!
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