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Old 10-06-2008   #1 (permalink)
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Default hp gains from speed density to MAF

ok so i was just sitting around and started thinking about this topic... just out of curiosity just by changing the speed density over to MAF how much hp should you pickup since the meter would now read the actual amount of air passing through (amount of molecules). thought this might be a good discussion topic.
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it's not so much the horsepower you pickup from the conversion.....

it is the compatibility with other modification that will not work with the speed density setup.....
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yea i know that part... but i was just curious if you pick up any ponies from the conversion. i couldnt tell just cause my car is supercharged and was running so rich do to everything being out of line with the other components.
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yea i know that part... but i was just curious if you pick up any ponies from the conversion. i couldnt tell just cause my car is supercharged and was running so rich do to everything being out of line with the other components.

you may pick a few but nothing really measurable in my opinion
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yea thats what i thought. like i said i couldnt tell just because my car hadnt worked in conjunction since i supercharged it.
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no Hp should run smoother, and alot better if your gonna cam it, only a few speed density capable cams out there.
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If it really came down to it, it probably loses a small amount because it meter is a restriction in itself.
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If it really came down to it, it probably loses a small amout because it meter is a restriction in itself.

agreed i have heard the same thing unless you opt for a 90+mm MAF
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agreed i have heard the same thing unless you opt for a 90+mm MAF
with a 90mm you better have something on the other side of it....
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haha thats true reggie!
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Odd thing is, a 75mm Pro M (or PMAS) Bullet meter will support nearly 600 hp. That's a quote I got from Pro M.
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wow thats impressive! but are those numbers true for any 75 mm or just from Pro M models?
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I have seen differing information about changing to MAF from SD. Mostly, when this conversion should be done. Is it mostly needed due to changing the cam? Or, can I change the intake and/or heads (and maybe even injectors) w/o changing to MAF? Perhaps my question should be more of what order should these mods be performed? I cannot afford to do them all at once, but they are all in my future plans. Even eventually SD > MAF as I will, at some point, change my cam.
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A MAF set-up will allow the engine computer to adapt much better to mods so if you have a Fox body, a late Fox MAF set-up with engine computer and wiring harness would be the way to go.
Tmoss has a direct dyno comparison on his site showing solid HP gains from the MAF over the speed density set-up:

http://www.tmossporting.com/tabid/3517/Default.aspx
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actually, the gains were almost nill, but the power band was defiantely affected - here is the data
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