[fordman777]

I finally got a decent weekend last weekend and got my oilpan back in on saturday I pulled the motor all the way out its alot easier but I got everything back together on sunday and I fired her up she runs good first time I have heard it run and it fired on first crank and the car hasnt been started since atleast last spring that I know of dont know how much longer but I still need a shifter and cable. I got someone to put it in gear for me and moved it around no leaks and after I shut it off and went to restart a little after the battery was dead so its not gettin charged. Today I notice the wires from the alternator didnt look to good around the plug in the middle so I spliced them and reconnected then I noticed the wires to the regulator looked awfull so I cut them from the connecter and put individual female connecters on them and plugged them back up where they go. Now when I go to start it its like there is no spark to the motor at all its not getting any spark I took the coil off the dragcar tried it but still no fire. I didnt check any fuses or relays yet but is there any I should look for. Has anyone else had this problem I know my alternator could be bad or the regulator could be bad but not for sure and that wouldnt cause it to not get any fire. Hopefully the weather will allow me to work on it this weekend. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

[Lunatic5oh]

So it cranks healthy; just no spark?

PS: 4-eyes ftw

[fordman777]

Yeah it cranks fine no promblems what so ever just no spark im thinking its the wiring and possably to the regulator my girlfriends dad has a jeep and the plug had mud in it I cleaned the mud out and it fired right up. Yep she is a 4 eye I used to not like them but the hood on the 4 eyes I like them better and they acctually look good in my opinion.

[Lunatic5oh]

So if you pop the coil wire from the coil to the dizzy there's still no spark?

Maybe you don't have a good ground somewhere? Even if the alternator was bad you would still be able to have spark from the battery... because usually the way you find out the alternator is bad is to fire it up, then disconnect the battery.

What I like to do to check for spark is take a timing light and hook it on each wire to see if one isn't working or if there's nothing at all. This makes it safer and more convenient.

Even though it should start on battery power only, I wonder if you might have accidentally switched something up when fixing the alternator wiring; or maybe you forgot to hook something up even?

[fordman777]

You know what I checked to make sure the cylinoid was gounded good but I didnt think about any other grounds such as the ground from the firewall to the intake but I actually started the car with it off sunday, and the ground from the battery to block where the alternator bolts up and the ground from cylinoid to the starter but if the battery ground wasnt grounded good then it wouldnt crank to good would it? I dont know im sure its something pretty simple but I got all the wiring right I just eliminated the plug to the wires and connected them then the wires to the regulator I put them female connecters on and there was only three there and two from the alternator. I relly appreciate your help keep throwing out ideals if you got them my luck you will say something then ill know exactly what it is that seems to happen to me alot I am also bad about missplacing my tools so I have to try and make myself put them back up instead of sitting them down in front of my face and kickin myself in the a$$ wondering where they are lol. Im also waitin on reggie to tell me exactly what it is..... come on reggie lol. Really though I appreciate your help and like I said keep a comin with the ideals!

[RLG34750]

I'm here......Be careful what you ask for......

try swapping out the dizzy

check and/or replace rotor & cap

BTW......electrical is not one of my strongest points

[fordman777]

Hey Reggie thanks for the info sorry bout gettin back so late I had a long day yesterday and didnt get a chance to get online but im messin with it right now I cleaned all my grounds good and im goin to look at the rotor and cap. David Loye (The feller that built the motor in the drag car) told me the same thing about the distributor he said they just go bad said the pickups just go bad but hopefully ill get er figured out ill post back in a little while I really appreciate the help guys thanks Lunatic5oh and Reggie

[fordman777]

I am almost positive that the pickup is bad im goin to pick one up or there may be one in the drag car thanks for all the help.

[EagleAutosports]

I was about to say while reading this, that it's probably the pickup inside the distributor. That can go out without warning, and probably just coincided with you changing the alternator wiring. If this was an EFI car and the pickup failed, it'd be recommended to get a new module too because they tend to malfunction after the pickup dies.

[svnt442]

On my cousins GT that we just did a H/C/I on we had the dist 180° out and it wouldn't start. Finally got that straightened out and then no spark. Turned out the module decided to take a hike at that moment. Just when glory was to be attained.

It can end up just being a giant cosmic coincidence. You just never know.

[fordman777]

Yeah well I found a whole distributor that came out of the 302 that was originally in the drag car put it in and the same nothing unless that one is bad also but the motor ran before it was takin out of the drag car I am kinda leaning towards the regulator its mounted on the firewall so its an external 9.99 at autozone thats what I was thinking to begin with but alot of people was saying the pickup cause they are known for doing that but I dont know I guess this is the step where I buy untill fixed start with the cheapest right o well it happens lol but if anyone has any suggestions fill free to tell I appreciate it all thanks guys. Just so there is no confussion its not EFI its carb holly 600.

[fordman777]

I got a question for Reggie or anyone else that can answer if my voltage regulator is bad would this cause my problems? I am almost positive it would but I wana be for sure. Thanks for the help!

[RLG34750]

Originally Posted by fordman777

I got a question for Reggie or anyone else that can answer if my voltage regulator is bad would this cause my problems? I am almost positive it would but I wana be for sure. Thanks for the help!

if anything is bad in the electrical system
yes the voltage regulator could cause your problem....

[fordman777]

Ok so I guess ill start with the voltage regulator its only 10.00 bucks so whats it goin to hurt. I really appreciate it.

[fordman777]

I got the new regulator put on it does the same thing . I dont know if its the wiring, ignition, or what but hopefully ill get it figured out if anyone has any suggestions or thoughts fill free. Thanks for all who is helping.