[dozer]

ok i've been putting this off but finally decided to build me a wicked mustang. I just got my hands on my buddys stock cobra mint condition and clean as can be. I've seen these drag stangs and decided i want one and seen the terminater tt and kennebell stangs. So exactly what do you guys think it would take to build a "street tune" mustang capable of 1000hp mininum? I'm leaning more towards a turbo set up since they're cheaper and can get the power i want for less. What about pistons and heads? Any and all info will be helpfull and great!

[johnnshepherd]

about a hundred grand and a lot of time... street legal isn't going to happen though.

as far as your car goes you might as well trash your engine and tranny right now because they're not gonna get close to 1000

[RLG34750]

1000 hp & all the supporting component.....

$75,000 -125,000

if you are lucky........

[bigtang]

Go big bore dart block, 363-ish twin turbo CHI cleveland heads or a yates style head
JE pistons
GOOD rods, lentz, etc.
Callies or lunati crank
probably run about $20k for the long block w/ turbo setup using all new parts.
figure a PG or TH400, maybe even 4r70w $5000 w/ stall
8.8 will hold up just needs the right tweaks, $2000
misc chassis mods, cage, suspension, mini tubs, real shocks/struts, $10k

thats how i would do it. if you can do the work yourself you can save SOME but cut too many corners and it will not be a good day when things go wrong.

[fs308]

buy someones old drag car it would be cheaper

[EagleAutosports]

To make serious power, you need a serious foundation to start. Build the engine first, then add boost.

Dart or Man-O-War 351 block, bore and stroke it to 408 or 427.
This means either a Callies, Kellogg, or Lunati Sledgehammer crank. H beam aluminum rods from Carillo, Lunati, or Manley. Pistons need to give approximately 8-8.5:1 compression at the maximum. Make sure they have a ring package for the intended boost, this means the rings might be moved down the skirt of the piston to avoid burning them.

Heads would have to be some serious units like the TFS R series, AFR 225, Edelbrock Vic Glidden. You'll want a shaft rocker system like one from Jesel.

I'm guessing you want it to be EFI. This would mean 160 lb injectors, a tunable computer control system like F.A.S.T. or DFI. For the intake, you could try a CHP Spyder made from a Super Victor intake.

The cam would need to be a solid roller and you'd be highly advised to get a custom grind. You could check these guys.
www.elgincams.com (Dema Elgin, LEGEND, making his own cams since 1957, for the old school touch. STILL there, and you can talk to the guys who make your cam and they will tell you what they plan to do, without worrying about whether or not their secret mojo will get "stolen").

www.integralcams.com (Big corporate race shop, very high tech, high end, pricey. NASCAR teams work with them). $1100-3000 for a REAL custom developed camshaft. Or more. No BS.

www.claysmithcams.com (Mike Jones, camshaft tech and engine guy - well-known in the North East). Though I think his new business is Ultra Pro Racing Cams. He grinds his own cams, and he can even do inverse curves (at the base of the lobes) when they will help a custom cam project. Interesting concept...

Some factors the cam designer needs to know: Bore, stroke, rod length, static compression ratio, carburetion and flow, planned rpm range, port flow, valve size, valve seat angles, heads and intake manifold. Mr. Iskendarian (of Isky fame) will also discuss your project with you and tell you what specs he will build for your custom cam project.

A 408 or 427 stroker built this way will be at least 500 engine hp. Add in some boost from a 76mm turbo and you'd hit that number but there's no way to guess what kind of manners this engine would have or if you could drive it on the street.

[dozer]

dude from eagle autosports thanks man and like i said i just got ahold of it but i just dont understand where the others are seeing over 50g for a 1000hp motor if a 04 cobra can with just a bigger pulley,belt,2 fuel pumps,and bigger injectors,"thats what my brothers room mate has" and i've seen the dyno run at 1007hp INSANE! So i hate to say this but i guess id been better off just saven up n buying one of those right or just build a turbo supra since you see tons of those straight6 turbos at 1000hp.

[need4spd90]

those mod motor blocks can handle TONS more hp than a stock pushrod 5.0..they're two totally different animals

stock fox block 500-600max before it splits in half,that may even be pushing it..

so first thing you would need is to ditch your entire motor and trans(t-5 handles somewhere in the neighborhood of 300ft-lbs of tq stock)

why dont you just try and stuff an 03-04 cobra mod motor in there and crank the boost up?
its been done before...probably the cheapest way out..though it'd probably be quite a task..

[RLG34750]

Originally Posted by dozer

but i just dont understand where the others are seeing over 50g for a 1000hp motor .

well to make that kind of horsepower.....

Especially on a mod motor is really not that hard......

But you are talking big money to put one together that will last beyond one dyno pull.....

Also the supension need to get that kind of power to the ground can't be found in a jegs or summit.....

To coin a phrase......

Mo' Money....Mo' Money......Mo' Money.......Mo' Money

[Tjohnson]

Why are you bent on 1000 hp? What kind of track times are you looking for? Have you ever even been down a track?

[RLG34750]

Originally Posted by Tjohnson

Why are you bent on 1000 hp? What kind of track times are you looking for? Have you ever even been down a track?

Those are very good questions.....

[fs308]

also if you plan on running in the single digits do you have any idea what it cost to set up the chassis to run that fast safely?

i think you need to hit the drawing board and actually check into some of the prices. you can have an easy 10k into a shortblock. a set of heads to make that kind of power will around 4k. then a set of shaft rockers arent exactly cheap. a good valve train could run 1000. i mean just think about where you are and you only have a long block

[RLG34750]

Originally Posted by fs308

also if you plan on running in the single digits do you have any idea what it cost to set up the chassis to run that fast safely?

i think you need to hit the drawing board and actually check into some of the prices. you can have an easy 10k into a shortblock. a set of heads to make that kind of power will around 4k. then a set of shaft rockers arent exactly cheap. a good valve train could run 1000. i mean just think about where you are and you only have a long block

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[dozer]

ok it doesnt have to be 1000hp but i'd like it to be as fast as my son's best friend's turbo supra he's pushing close to 1100hp and that thing will scat he runs high 9's...so this is more of me wanting to build a v8 to shut this kid up about how much better his straight 6 is than my v8 and i just want a wicked cobra so i dont care about the price its just i didnt see that much money goin into building one my bad guys.

[Smurf stang]

Hey dozer for a supra to put 1100 hp to the wheels it needs some SERIOUS work. My really good friend puts a little over 800 hp to the wheels and he has dumped tons of money into that supra and that monster runs but it can in no way hook up on the track. Again you can make any car run some cars just takes more money than others.