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Default Automatic to manual conversion

What is needed to convert a auto to a manual? Is it even worth the time to do the conversion. Is there any other way to get the feel of a manual with a auto. I'm in a transmission class now, so my knowledge isn't up to par. Any comments or info would be awesome!


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Its a ton of work. You have to change all the linkage, bellhousing, flywheel, shiftier, sometimes you have to change the rear end ratio because oftentimes its not the same as the auto, you also have to get a new driveshaft. If you have the time and can do it yourself its so worth it though in my opinion. all it takes is some time and decently deep pockets for the new parts. If you dont want to go that route you can get a shift kit for your atuo. Not the same but it helps get the feeling of banging your own gears.
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im gonna do the samething with my 94 5.0 ..try going to your local junk yard that where i picked up all my part except for the transmission fly wheel and cluth im gonna order those online
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I've done a couple conversions myself...

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Its a ton of work. You have to change all the linkage, bellhousing, flywheel, shiftier, sometimes you have to change the rear end ratio because oftentimes its not the same as the auto, you also have to get a new driveshaft. If you have the time and can do it yourself its so worth it though in my opinion. all it takes is some time and decently deep pockets for the new parts. If you dont want to go that route you can get a shift kit for your atuo. Not the same but it helps get the feeling of banging your own gears.
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  1. It really isn't a ton of work when compared to just replacing an auto. Actually, I would rather lift a manual back into place than an auto!
  2. The gear ratios are more often than not the same, and you never have to change a stock rear gear ratio when going from an auto to a manual.
  3. You do not have to change the driveshaft.
And, if you're willing to take time and shop for good deals, you can do the conversion for a reasonable price. I believe I did mine for less than $1000.

Good advice about the shift kit, though. The auto can be made more fun.

The bottom line is decide what your long term goals for the car are, and if a manual fits the bill. I love driving manuals, but not everyone does, and there are applications where autos are better.
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I prefer a manual I just don't have the cash to do it yet but I want that manual feeling, what can I do other then a shift kit? Can I change the shifter in general?


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The B&M Hammer shifter is a nice ratchet shifter and it also looks nice. I bought one for a 93 lx 5.0. I enjoyed it!
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It's not all that bad actually. There is a complete write up with required parts, etc. If you go towards the end I added a write-up that talks about couple items and parts not listed in the original write-up.

Having never worked on a transmission before, my first time doing it was a swap to a T-5. Well worth it IMO.

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Did a little research on the b&m shifter and for right now until I save for conversion that and a shift kit is the way I might go for now. How easy is the installation for the b&m?


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The B&M is not hard at all to install. It came with very good directions that was easy to follow!
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Ya I'm excited to put it on, I also bought a shift kit for it to! Now I'm looking into suspension next, any ideas to help steer the imagination?


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The conversion is easy. Did mine a couple years ago.

Aside from having to change the pedal assembly, it's basically like changing any other transmission except you take off a torque converter and a flexplate and install a flywheel and clutch. Nothing really to it.

I bought a swap kit off ebay that came with a crossmember, pedal assembly, bellhousing, harness, flywheel and other little things for like 350 bucks then paid $40 to get the flywheel machined.
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i just did this a few weeks ago! went from a c4 trans in my 93 4cyl conversion car. was easy! the hardest part is changing pedals but if you take yr time and be patient its not that hard. altogether cost me about 500 and that was with a new clutch kit from napa. i will say that i went with a 4cyl t5 that i got for a 100bucks that works great, 1st gear is pretty short and as long as yr not ripping gears all the time it will hold up!
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not a big deal to do theswap really at all. if youre gonna keep the auto get a b and m ratchet shifter **** kit and manual valve body setup for that auto and it will be just like a 5 speed except no clutch and a ton of fun. my buddy had a mid 60's chevy nova with a big block 468 with like 600hp with a turbo400 transmission with manual valve bodys and a ratchet shifter and its soo much fun to drive because of that ratchet shifter and the manual valve bodys that make it shuft like a manual but without the clutch. goodluck with whatever u decide to do
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