[fastmerc]

Am building up a 92 block, Motorsports dual chain set, new Motorsports timing cover. Went to install the oil slinger (could be an old 60's-70's one...) and it is interfering with the cover now! Cover takes the seal from the front.

Anyone have a picture of an oil slinger off of a 5.0 handy? I am no longer sure of where I got this slinger as I've been thru a bunch of motors lately, and I may have given the 5.0 one away in a box........

Thanks!
Steve

[EagleAutosports]

Where is the interference? I bet it's on that tab that's on the backside of the cover. If it is, you can actually grind that tab down to get clearance. I had to grind mine down to install the gear drive I have.

[fastmerc]

EA,

Thanks for the note! Interference is actually not the tab or ledge, but the seal land itself. It was changed just enuf that if you were to grind out the offending area, you'd be weakening the seal holding area. Not a lot of material there. It's like I need a "shallower" slinger.... Earlier covers (68& 69 versions) have material rearranged slightly to allow slinger to work.

I just got off the phone with the Ford Motorsports guys, and they say that the "ledge" (tab) that appears above the seal opening is for oil control. "Ford quit using slingers in 68 or so......when the design changed...." so they say. But it makes me wonder why I keep finding them in 69 and 70++ engines......!

Sounds kinda fishy......

Next time I drop the front off of a 5.0, will hafta take pictures to compensate for loss of grey matter retention abilities.....

If I don't find a real 5.0 slinger or a shot of one, I will just run without it.....

Ciao!
Steve

[EagleAutosports]

Alrighty then, and you're right about not wanting to clearance things around the seal. Let us know what you do with it.

[fastmerc]

EA,

Happened to bounce this off of my shop that did the machining, and apparently the FM Tech was correct, but off by a decade or so! No slinger required for the 5.0's etc with the "outside" seal type timing covers!

Next time I spot an early injected or early 5.0 cover that still has a fuel pump opening, and an "inside" seal....if there is such a thing, I will look much closer at that area of the casting....

Now, here is some info FYI, regarding what I was doing, and what I found. This thread is beat, but you may run into someone doing a 5.0 swap into an early xxxx, and are wondering about this and that fitting properly.....

Block is 92 F1SE casting, Timing cover is latest Motorsports D351 ('05 casting date), Harmonic Balancer is 68 HiPo 289 style. Application is a 69 mid engined vehicle, early water pump required.

The only oddity is that the timing cover has a mount for a magnetic timing pickup at the lower RH side of the engine (not sure when this appeared!).

The 69-earlier water pump with the RH inlet provision fits fine over this mount, and it has provisions for the 69-earlier timing pointer on the LH side, so will work with the 69 & earlier RH water pump inlet and early balancers just fine.

It also has the provision in place for the RH oil dipstick too! Guys that choose to use the factory 5.0 LH block dipstick location will need to plug this hole!

For 1970+, the two lower RH bolt bosses are there to accept a stock timing pointer for 70 up when the water pump inlet went to the LH side..... however, most of the bosses for the magnetic timing pickup would need to be removed before a stock timing pointer will fit. I did see some pic's (tiny) of a way bent up piece that appears to be "the" timing pointer for this cover...... no idea of it's availability. But with a little cutting action, you'd be done fitting the stock pointer in minutes.

So, other than the requirement to omit the oil slinger, these covers will do what you need to do with little work, on most small block projects. Price on them has been very good for new pieces...not necessarily a hot selling item unless you have the right date codes, and I don't care about that on this "Heinz 57" project.

Thanks for the input!
Steve