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Whats causing so hard to shift gears even with Pedal all the way to the floor?

Hey guys, I am having a real problem shifting gears on my 1989 5.0 5 speed Mustang. As far as I know its the original clutch cable in the car and it has about 130,000 miles on it. Clutch was replaced about two years ago and it still has the original clutch cable and shifter in the car which has about 130,000 miles on it. I have to put the clutch pedal all the way to the floor to disingage clutch to shift and even then it sometimes feels like the clutch is still partially engaged.

Any suggestions on how I go about fixing this?
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Does the hard shifting happen when the motor is running AND when it is not?

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Buy an adjustable cable. Your old one probably has gunk built up or heat shrunk rubber onto the cable or it stretched over time. Either that, or the quadrant is on it's last leg before it runs out of adjustment and snaps.

I would buy an adjustable cable regardless.

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I agree with the cable and quadrant, just changed mine and its a completely different feel.

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Does the hard shifting happen when the motor is running AND when it is not?
Not Sure but I am gonna take you guys advise and buy a cable and quadrant. Any suggestions on which one? I am thinking of the one offered by Steeda.

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Hey Scott, sounds like your running out of adjustment on your cable. If the clutch is new then I would replace the cable and quadrant. I bought and installed the Steeda unit. A very nice piece of work, but a real beech to install. I removed the drivers seat to get a better angle under the dash.
Mind you I have a GT and you have a LX so it won't be so cluttered with wires and connectors.
BTW, i thought that you had that car back home. I haven't talked to you in a while so I must be missing out on something.
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The quadrant is a pain to install if it is your first time. Just remove the two cotter pin style pins from above the gas pedal and the old quadrant will slide off with some cursing and large metal bar. I really like my steeda qudrant, firewall adjuster and cable.

If you get the firewall adjuster, you need to razor off the top part of the clutch cable that meets the firewall.

One way to tell also is to jack up the car and have someone press the clutch pedal all the way and see how much of the clutch fork is pulled.

I was living with a stiff clutch pedal for the longest time and thought that's how it is with a cable style transmission, but it was the cable and quadrant all along.

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Frank, just picked up a nice 1989 50L 5 speed hatchback. It is basically 100% original right down to the paint and everything else except for the tires. I bought it off the original owner and he just had those replaced. While the car has been very well cared for, it does have 130,000 miles on it.

I am planning on buying the Steeda Adjustable Clutch Cable Kit but which one do I get? I notice they have two kits available for 83-95 Mustangs with the only apparent difference between the two being, one has an adjustable cable and the other is non-adjustable. I'm figuring adjustable but am I right?

http://www.steeda.com/store/-catalog...justerKits.htm

Appreciate the help!

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I have no idea why they would sell a nonadjustable kind ? I'd get the adjustable with firewall.

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I've seen more than a few problems with adjustable cables. Buy the lit with the firewall adjustor, non-adjustable cable and the aluniumum quadrant. I've run that on mine (bought from UPR) for three yeears on my stock cable and no problems. The quadrant firewall adjustor can be had for $40-60.

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What possible problems could you have?

If it stretches , tighten it? If you want a slightly softer / harder feel , adjust it how you like. I dont think they should be like that from the factory to protect the average joe, but Im sure everyone on here could adjust a clutch cable how they want it to be.
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I put a BBK aluminum quadrant and cable on mine as soon as I got it cause the plastic parts were worn with only 50,000 miles and shifting was so bad. I can only say that this unit worked wonders for my stang. Along with a non adjustable Hurst shifter I put on a few years later, it is now a pleasure to shift instead of pure frustration! I don't know why Ford didnt cure this problem a long time ago!

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Any difference in the Steeda and BBK unit or should I just go for whichever one is the cheapest?

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I would go with the one that is firewall adjustable and then with cheapest as my BBK has lasted for about 10 years now! Of course I only adjusted it once so I dont miss the easier firewall adjuster to much! Gotta get the ones that have HD cables that is the key!

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I went with both the adjustable cable and firewall adjuster. It worked out great for me. The Steeda unit is a very nice piece of work, too bad you can't see it because it is buried up so high in the dash.
You are getting a deal buy the way over at Steeda. Buy the time I was done with the shipping and all to bring it over here, it was about $250. Canadian.
Anyway you look at it, it is sure better than the stock set up!!
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