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I have another t5 question. I have 2 that i have decoded the numbers on. The first one is13-52-162, it came out of Ford 1987 Mustang/Capri 2.3 L4 EFI WC, it has an electrical plug on top. The second is 13-52-165, it came out of Ford 1986 Mustang 5.0 V8 WC, but it doesnt have an electrical plug on the top. I was wondering which one on be better to rebuild, and what is the electrical plug on top? Thanks
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If you're rebuilding one to put behind a V8, go with the second one. I have heard that the T5s used behind the non-V8s are not as strong.

As to the electrical plug, it's the reverse switch plug.

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The 1352-165 would have the correct gear set used in a 5.0 FOX Mustang from 1985-1989.
The transmission that generally appears in the 86-89 GT is a 1352-169.

The -169 has the plug on the top cover. This plug is a NEUTRAL switch and not a reverse light switch as was stated in the post above.

That -162 is from a 4-cylinder and has some gear ratios that are not desired in a V-8 and wold require a special pilot bearing to adapt it anyway.

Ok, build the -165, but use the TOP COVER with the switch from the -162. Be careful not to lose the tiny actuator rod in the top cover if you unscrew that switch.

What are you putting this into? Does it have the harness that this plug connects to?

It is my understanding that the neutral switch signal is used by the EEC and by the Cruise Control functions.

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I put it in a 87 coupe. The car had the pigtale and was connected to the 162 trans.. The 165 i put in it didnt have the plug. Everything is working fine, but it wont downshift into third. Going through the gears it works perfect, just not downshifting. Any ideas?
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I put it in a 87 coupe. The car had the pigtale and was connected to the 162 trans.. The 165 i put in it didnt have the plug. Everything is working fine, but it wont downshift into third. Going through the gears it works perfect, just not downshifting. Any ideas?
Are you saying that it scrapes when you try to downshift, but it does ok on the upshift?

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I've had some T5s that wouldn't downshift. I replaced the syncro rings and it fixed the problem.

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AH YES, you're right, of course. I'm such an idiot; I don't know what I was thinking. NEUTRAL switch. Thanks SPeace-ATL.

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when i rebuilt my t-5 it was missing the neutral switch pin and it works just fine, on second thought i dont even know what that switch is supposed to do!

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Are you saying that it scrapes when you try to downshift, but it does ok on the upshift?
It wont downshift into 3rd. I guess it could be the synchros. Thanks for the advice guys.
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It wont downshift into 3rd. I guess it could be the synchros. Thanks for the advice guys.
Yes, that is where I was going...

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