[93Stang]

these electric superchargers are they for real or are they making it up because they say that it can produce 30 to 40 rwhp is this true and you guys please tell me what you think thank you

[wilit]

Please do a search. This question has been asked at least once a month here.

But no, they don't work.

[One_Quik_Pony]

The "Search" function is your friend here!

[GhostDog 5.0]

http://allfordmustangs.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=30867

Refer to this thread of overflowing crap from one person trying to sell it.

[maxxxxd]

If those electric superchargers work, I have got some swamp land in Florida for sale... CHEAP.

Nothing but a marketing scam. I did notice that if I bring my electric shaver and turn it on when I accelerate, I get at least 50 more horses on the freeways.

[tomcat101]

Speaking of these "Electric Superchargers", do you guys think there is some way to perfect these things? Maybe get a REALLY strong one, and hook it up so your Tach, so as the RPM's go up, it will spin faster like a belt driven one. i don't know, i was just thinking about it the other day and was wondering if anyone else thought of it.

[wilit]

Originally Posted by tomcat101

Speaking of these "Electric Superchargers", do you guys think there is some way to perfect these things? Maybe get a REALLY strong one, and hook it up so your Tach, so as the RPM's go up, it will spin faster like a belt driven one. i don't know, i was just thinking about it the other day and was wondering if anyone else thought of it.

No. It won't work. Superchargers and turbochargers do more than blow air. They compress air. You'll never get an HVAC blower to spin fast enough to compress any air. You'll burn up the brushes in the motor before you draw enough current to get it spinning fast enough.

[89&90COUPES]

hahahahah i love the part about the electric razor hahahaha...

[meatball]

Originally Posted by 89&90COUPES

hahahahah i love the part about the electric razor hahahaha...

agree, however, the electric supercharger can also be removed and will function as a Flowbee.

[hotwheels]

na, they don't work bro.......just a gimmick is all........money better spent on other parts.......hotwheels

[Dash Riprock]

I sent an email to a company called "E-Racing", asking the owner to defend his claims on our forum. Here was his reply...


"Dear Dash,

Thank you for your interest in the e-RAM Electric Supercharger, and thank you for making us aware of the discussion on our product on the internet discussion group.

After doing this since 1997, we have realized that it is just not worth our time trying to explain or defend our product on these discussion groups. We have found that no matter what lengths we go to in order to explain the basics of our product, those who have already decided that our product is not real will always believe so, even if there is solid evidence to support that it works.

Over the years, we have had many independent dyno tests performed on our product. Even after positive results are proven, we have found that those who resist the idea today, will continue to resist the idea regardless of the results. We have even seen those who step up to defend the e-RAM get ridiculed even after proving performance results through their own dyno tests. People even go as far as to claim that the tester has been paid-off by e-Racing Motorsports. The bottom line is that we have entered discussion groups before with the idea of educating people on our product, and even with the best intentions, we find that it just creates a large animosity towards our company. Even when showing positive independent dyno results, it does nothing to help our company by entering these ridiculous discussions.

A perfect example is the one statement made by an individual on the discussion group you referred to us stating that our "Civic" dyno graph only produced 2HP and 2ft.lb torque. That was incorrect. The e-RAM produced 4HP and 4ft lb torque on an engine with a baseline HP of 88HP. That is a 5% gain, and that is all that we are claiming can be accomplished by adding the e-RAM.... 5%. On a 200HP engine, 5% is 10HP gain, and on a 300 HP engine, 5% is 15hp gain. We don't claim massive gains, just additional HP gains on top of everything else that a customer has done or will do to his/her engine.

Another thing.... Since our inception back in 1997, there has been a fair amount of proliferation on the internet of copy-cat products that are based off of our patented technology (many of which are in direct violation of our patent, and none of which draw even remotely enough energy to produce any usable pressure at ANY flow rate). None of these cheap knock-offs provide any positive pressure or HP gains on any engine. Due to the lack of understanding of Ohms Law (electrical energy) and air-flow dynamics, paired with the fact that the marketing by performance products companies is about as truthful as marketing claims seen from providers of weight-loss products, there is allot of resistance by those in internet discussion groups in believing that electric boost is a valid concept.
The funny thing is... we have heard people pontificate about how they wouldn't "waste their money" on an electric supercharger even if it was proven to produce 10hp gain on their engine for $300. These are the same people who have an engine that starts with 150hp, and will drop $150 on underdrive pulleys that may provide a net gain of 1 or 2 HP, or drop $300 on a cold-air intake system that has been proven to produce only 3 or 4 HP gain on their engine, or drop $500 to $1500 on a complete exhaust system (header, cat-back, & muffler) that may result in a cool sound, but only produces around 5-8 total HP gain (that's assuming that there wasn't HP loss at certain sections of the RPM curve due to what type of driving the header was designed to be optimized for). Add ignition systems, spark-plug wires, ECU chips, fuel additives, etc.. and you get the picture. The classic is the investment in larger fuel injectors and adjustable fuel pressure regulators. Unless an engine is running higher than 3psi boost, there is absolutely no gain from this modification. If you don't have any more air entering the engine, then there is no need for additional fuel. More fuel without more air just makes the car run too rich and robs the engine of HP and fouls the plugs, so even with larger injectors and higher fuel pressure, the computer will automatically cut back on the fuel delivery to keep the air-fuel ratio at the proper levels anyway... Thus, a total waist of money for all but the most heavily modified normally aspirated engines. Bottom line.... Some people will never learn.


We have provided a new section on our web-site called "Electric Boost Buyers Guide," so those who wish to become educated can do so at their own leisure. The link is: http://www.electricsupercharger.com/buyersguide.shtml#eboostbasics1

Hope this helps -

Regards,

Mike Kibort
e-Racing Motorsports, LLC.
www.electricsupercharger.com/

"Prove it at the track"

[Tominator]

That's a pretty reasonable response from them.

.....Don'y buy one BTW!

[GhostDog 5.0]

It'll be the most expensive leaf blower you've ever bought!

[meatball]

give the guy credit for responding w/a letter specifically targeted to us.

[89stanger]

Originally Posted by Dash Riprock

...A perfect example is the one statement made by an individual on the discussion group you referred to us stating that our "Civic" dyno graph only produced 2HP and 2ft.lb torque. That was incorrect. The e-RAM produced 4HP and 4ft lb torque on an engine with a baseline HP of 88HP. That is a 5% gain, and that is all that we are claiming can be accomplished by adding the e-RAM.... 5%. On a 200HP engine, 5% is 10HP gain, and on a 300 HP engine, 5% is 15hp gain. We don't claim massive gains, just additional HP gains on top of everything else that a customer has done or will do to his/her engine...

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i like this paragraph, 4 hp... that is the difference in the exhaust in the air, run at the track, take a run after the nitro cars go down, you will notice a difference in your time you'll run faster, i have noticed the difference in tha malibu i used to race, 12.6-12.4 seconds, so the dyno is going to be no different, if you run it after a car with expensive fuel, it's going to be a different reading, and you have to use the exact dyno to get accurate changes, identical conditions

i am not trying to prove anyone wrong in this post, i am not personally sayng they work or do not work, but electric super chargers do work, in theory, in my opinion, if you can get the blades to spin fast enough that you are not causing drag in the intake at redline, than at bottom end, you will be pushing more air in there than normally, this is not necicairly going to make a difference in horsepower that is noticable, but like i said in theory they work, but in theory the perpetual motion machine should have been invented by now, mesure the vacuume in the intake boot, like air filter side of the throttle plate under 100% throttle, it won't be very much but there will be a vacuume, if you can create even 0 pressure, no negitive pressure, no positive, you have alreity increased the airflow into the engine, weither that is possible with an electric fan or not, is another story.

if you get an old blower motor from a comercial grade heater, and put that under your hood, provided you can fit it in there, and the weight doesen't effect anything and the draw on the alternator doesen't exceed the power increase, thoes blowers will push more air than the 5.0 normally uses, keep in mind they are about 2 feet by 2 feet by 2 feet, centrifical fan, draws air in the center and out the sides...