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Old 12-19-2004   #1 (permalink)
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i raced this mustang, i believe it was an 89, hatch back, almost identical to mine, just a little darker blue, it was lowered, full exhaust, 4:10 gears, rims all that shanannagans, my question is, he had a PIMP hood,it was sorta cowel, like that center portion on the mustang hood, that is raised up, was a little taller, and there were forward facing scoops on either side that looked wicked, i was wondering if anyone had seen this hood, they went right from the end of the hood @ the windsheild end, to about 3/4 of the way to the headlights, about 4 or 5 inches wide and about an inch tall anyone know about this?

also i was working on a 1999 explorer with a 5L in it, under the hood, the upper intake looked almost the same as mine, accept there was a little 90 degree elbow off of the upper, right where the throttle body spacer would be, i am wondering if i could put that on my car and then pop a hole in my hood, use that as a forced induction, it seems my car is the only car that doesen't have a throttle body that i can do a forced induction with!
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Forced induction is strictly super chargers and turbochargers. There is a large debate about how well ram air type systems work and at what speeds they actually do help (like 60 mph +). Don't cut any holes in your hood except for possible hood locks. If you can grab the heads and intake from that car you can gain some speed. The throttle body will work on a mustang but with some fabrication. I can explain how in detail if you like. The reason you can bolt the explorer throttle body on your mustang is the position of the gas pedal linkage.

Was it like this here or this ?
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it was closter to the this, but i like thoes 2 better, the here i like the most, accept for the triangle holes, if they were rectangular i would love it, now that i think about it, the hood i was looking at almost looked like a fiber glass hood with like a half inch to an inch cowel, without going any farther back towards the windsheild than stock, and 2 little boxes just bolted on for looks as for cutting holes n hoods, i plan to go grab a shitty hood and cutting and making it look good, i wanted to origionally put an old style shaker hood scoop with the chrome and the red butterfly valves on the front like all the really old muscle cars look like

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but that is made to bolt ontop of a blower right? lime my car lotsa power through first gear, lotsa power till about 4000 in second gear, when i shift i can feel the power, but it takes soooo long to get through second, third gear it's starting to lag, 4th on a good day is nice, 5th i don't use unless i am cruizin, i have done 180 and kept it in 4th 5th didn't have the power for me to get the speed b4 my lane cut out, (hiway driving ofcourse)
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That's for a carburetor that sucks air in from the top. Your car needs to meter the air before it goes into the manifold and that design will not work.
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understood, take a look @ chevy trucks, like my boss @ my work has a 97 chevy pickup, with the 4.3L v6 or w/e like his throttle body is facing upwards, it would work just fine bolted to that intake, if u look @ the lincons i think it is, their 302's same with the crown vic's with the 302's they have an intake that comes out the back of the intake in a u shape and faces forward right @ the back, like a dodge, no mass air or anything, the mass air can be moved, it can be modified to work better, that intake fron the back of the engine, if u were to put that 90 degree like i was talking and face it upwards you copuld put that on there no problem, i am a firm believer in "if you want it you can have it, you can do anything you want when it comes to a vehicle, if you want it done that is, like if u want a 4x4 mustang you can do it, it will take a hellofaot of work but you can do it, and i am not talking dropping the mustang unibody on a truck frame, you can put a transfercase in a mustang, with the existing setup, it will take alot of work but it can be done, modifying the body, the floor boards, and the suspension in the front, but it can be done!

back to that elbow on the explorer, i can put that on my stang, bring that throttle body on the side of the engine, tube it up to the top brace it and put that scoop on that, but, would there be any problems with putting that elbow on there? in my opinion ir would work similar to a throttle body spacer
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180 really?
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I am not sure if your throttle position sensor, computer, maf meter,and accellerator cable will agree you. You may dream it but you cant expect it to just adapt. What if it rains? Sucking all that water wont be good. I would just leave it alone.
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180? what?
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oh ha ha ha 180, ol ya, i live in canada, 180 km/h, roughly 110-120 mph, 96.5 km/h is the same as 60 mph lol i get it now, and with enough fabrication, anything is possible, like look @ that new kit for comaro's and turbo relocation, they put the airfilter on the passenger side right where the exhaust ips come out, the turbo goes where the muffler normally is, under where the gastank is on a stang(fox) , if u can put a turbo there (stupid as it may be,) it is possible and as for the rain thing, water injection jk, i da no i will figure something out, plus this is also a thought for my car when i put my 393 or my 347 or 331 or what ever i build or what ever i get in the mood to do when i get bored, i don't think it's going to be raining enough to worry about it, and if it is, i don't plan to drive then, i can always change it back, i da no i will deal with that when i get there lol, i don't like to worry about stuff i don't need to worry about right now,

my approach would be, let's sit and wait or try to figure a way outa the traffic jam when i get stuck in it, not listen to the traffic report, get directions to where the traffic jam might be.... but don't worry about it, may be slow, but it will still move
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here's a pic of the engine i am taling about, look @ the elbow the arrow points to, i want to put that on my existing upper intake, keeping the stock tb, and then that way i can put the maf right on to the throttle body, and then pipe the intake to the hood, i am not worried about a little bit of water in the engine, if it's raining hard enough yo matter, i will kill my self nyways with how i drive so i plan to walk as i do now
also i see what you mean about the throttle cable, if i were to put the explorer elbow and explorer tb and use an explorer throttle cable, use the mustang iac would it work?
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here's a pic of the engine i am taling about, look @ the elbow the arrow points to, i want to put that on my existing upper intake, keeping the stock tb, and then that way i can put the maf right on to the throttle body, and then pipe the intake to the hood, i am not worried about a little bit of water in the engine, if it's raining hard enough yo matter, i will kill my self nyways with how i drive so i plan to walk as i do now
also i see what you mean about the throttle cable, if i were to put the explorer elbow and explorer tb and use an explorer throttle cable, use the mustang iac would it work?
Sure, but WHY? It won't make any more power than a cold air induction kit, with a lot more work involved.

As far as turbo locations, the farther away from the engine it is located, the less efficiency. Mounting it back where the mufflers are would be senseless. Most of the heat energy will be lost before it gets to the turbo.
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i dug up this old thingy cuz i need soime opinions, do you think i could make this hood functional as a hood scoop? https://www.cervinis.com/shop/closeup.asp?part=155 or should i just stick with this hood as a functional hood scoop?
https://www.cervinis.com/shop/closeup.asp?part=101 (for the better part of 5 and a half bills for the kit which is shown here...

https://www.cervinis.com/shop/closeup.asp?part=420 (included for 570$)
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Second/third hood would be your best bet.

Is this for looks or performance, if you are looking for performance...... you could get something much better.
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