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Supercharger or Top End kit

Im saving up aroung 3k and i was wordering what would be better the trick flow top street burner end kit or a vortech V-2 8-10 boost?
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I'm gonna guess that no one will touch this with a ten foot pole. It's a matter of opinion on what you want. I love my trickflow top end if its any help.

Both will get about the same result. Around 300 at the wheels if your bottom end is up to the task

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Is this the stock bottom end in the car now? How many miles are on it? What sort of shape is it in? 8-10 psi of boost on a stock bottom end with high miles is (key words here) IN MY OPINION a ticking time bomb. Also, how is the car gonna be used? Is this a daily driver? A weekend warrior? Track car? That would have a huge impact on where you wanna go with this project.

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Im saving up aroung 3k and i was wordering what would be better the trick flow top street burner end kit or a vortech V-2 8-10 boost?
If you're looking for big power, then a turbo is probably where you'd lean.

I don't know for sure about motor longevity with a turbo, but for moderate hp gains with minimal motor issues, a top end kit could work. You won't get crazy gains though. My gauge has been by seat of the pants, and even with a supercharger on my car, with 3.27 gears, it should be better.

Everything boils down to money. What can you afford?

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306, AFR 165s, cold air induction, 73mm C&L MAF, 70mm TB, Kenne Bell 2.1L Blowzilla and standard inlet w/12lb pulley, 30lb injectors, 1.7 roller rockers, E cam, BBK short tubes, Flowmasters, 3.27 rear, panhard bar, Cobra brakes, subframe connectors, coilovers
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My engine was rebuilt by a professional company roun 8k miles ago and i occasionally get on it ya know to uh make sure everything in working order. and its my daily driver tell i get out of high school. ican afford lots cuz i have no bills right now but only a part time job so it will take awhile to get alot of money. I basically want my engine to last long but also have more power. And i already have shorty headers, flomasters, cai, 3.73, some sort of cam with a slight lift over stock wish i knew wat one it was.
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You may check out ON3 turbo kits just for kicks

Trick flow top end, Mac exhaust into magnapacks, tr3550, and a buttload more. Hoping to have numbers to back it up soon
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On3 Turbo gets my vote.....
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Seriously

If u have 3k just buy a fox hatch off Craigslist for 2500$ or so and get some spray. If u insist on modifying your ONLY car then go top end. Any top end kit will increase the value of your car and you can absolutely do this without paying for a tune. And if u did decide to tune just dish out the 1000$ for a PMS. If u add forced induction there's no way to do it for less than 4k properly unless u get used stuff. Adding forced induction will bring the need for extensive fuel management and tuning issues. I build turbo cars. Just go to a track event and look around and talk to people that are there to race and not to sell.

U can get a set of brand new AFR 165's or 185's, steeda cam, used trickflow or equivalent upper/lower intake manifold, a C & L maf, 24lb Injectors, 190lph intank pump, Aftermarket fuel rails and FPR, msd dist. Cap and wires, 70-75 mm TB, aluminum radiator and fan for less than the price of a supercharger kit. And your car will eat up any supercharger car that is running stock longblock. And you will be able to drive your car day in and day out without a bit of worry. Minus tires and clutches.

Just friendly advice. I try to talk people out of forced induction if they are on a modest budget and have only one vehicle. Some fellow mustang enthusiasts will scream turbo this or charge that but they aren't gonna pay for your several trips to the dyno or when you start blowing headgaskets. On3 makes a neat kit. For an attractice price. But its far from everything you'll need I don't care what anybody says. And when its all said and done you'll have a tired motor, slipping clutch, and a newfound fear of making weekend road trips. If a stock longblock car with a turbo or supercharger is going for 5500 then the same car would go for 6500 with a proper top end. You can shop around and see tons of charged/turbo cars for sale that all have common ads--- "needs tune" or "all it needs is" --- u get the point. I've gone on long enough. It's just that I have seen and/or worked enough "driveway dreams" this year and its time somebody post this information in atleast minor detail. Good luck to you. And give it hell either way.

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you always go with a top end kit first. use the search...

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I think thats what imma do. Got with the Streetburner Top end kit then get a 70mmTB and spacer, 30# injectors with matching maf, and then a SCT tune......Mmmmm that will be nice.
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and my friend whos a mechanic and when i got my engine rbuilt he put it back together.. anyways he siad if i helped he would do it for round 300$ which is crazy cheap! and it can count for my senior project!
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