well i have all ways been tought that there is no replacement for displacement but what do you guys think i will get the most for my money with a 302 or a 351w i want to stay with stock rods, crank, and heads every thing else is up in the air what do you think i will get to most power out of for less. also hello im new!
dollar for dollar more from a 302, less parts to replace.
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DSS 331 stroker, AFR 185 heads, Performer rpm 2 intake, Accufab 75 mm race TB, 30lb injectors, 80 mm Pro-M mass air, Extreme energy cam 266.
Anderson ford power pipe the big one, Ford motor sport shorty headers, Bassani x pipe custom cat back with flows, World class T5, center force duel friction clutch.
dollar for dollar more from a 302, less parts to replace.
I hope you're kidding because that's crap!!
Take a 351W, get it up to 9.5-10:1 compression, get a set of 69-75 351W heads and port them, add stainless valves, new springs, and screw-in studs and guideplates. Add headers, a PerformerRPM intake, 600cfm carb, and a Lunati 61003 cam. It'll run on 87 octane, put out 400hp and have lots of lowend torque, nice and streetable.
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66 coupe 5.0/T5, home-brewed power 4 wheel disc setup, 350hp+, looks like it belongs in 1968
Yeah, but, you'll need the 351W specific oilpan, accessory brackets, lower intake, distributor, 28oz flywheel and harmonic balancer, and maybe headers - depending on what you do for exhaust. There's a little more to it, with a Fox, versus a first-gen Stang.
Still, if you can get all of that stuff easily, then go for it. You can poke and stroke those engines to well over 400 cubes. Now that's displacement.
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1992 Deep Emerald Green Mustang GT Hatch, 5 speed, 2.73s, Mac fenderwell cold air intake, '93 Cobra MAF, Mac 70mm throttle body & spacer, Explorer intakes, Mac unequal headers & offroad pipe, Magnaflow catback, Walbro 110lph fuel pump, Jet adjustable FPR, MSD Blaster coil, Accel 8mm wires, FRPP aluminum quadrant, UPR firewall adjuster, stock cable, Granatelli upper control arms.
Waiting to go on: Granatelli lower control arms, and GT40 Iron heads!
sorry to break it to you but it will be going in a 94 t bird not a stang but any ways i was looking at some things and if i port the heads and throw on some good headers and a dome piston puting me at about 12 to 1 what do you guys think i will be at for power?
Zero power. I say this because the car will most likely stay in the shop for a very long time. Cash on hand from your paper rout wont cut it. you me need a little more money than you have saved up in the old piggy bank. Remember kids stay in school, and get a good job. Save your money get married, have kids, and then tell them about all you mistakes you have made in your life. Pray that they listen to you. Remember Just say no to crack!
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DSS 331 stroker, AFR 185 heads, Performer rpm 2 intake, Accufab 75 mm race TB, 30lb injectors, 80 mm Pro-M mass air, Extreme energy cam 266.
Anderson ford power pipe the big one, Ford motor sport shorty headers, Bassani x pipe custom cat back with flows, World class T5, center force duel friction clutch.
well 302 or 351 u going to spend cash on them to hold up i like the 351 over the 302. 351s have a beefer bottem end then the 302. 302s have a 5/16 bolt 1/2 nut. when the 351s have a longer rod and have 3/8 bolt with a 9/16s nut 351 also have a better crank. 302s are bad for braking stock rod bolts. some 351s are roller block hard to find non roller block can be change to roller. 302s also are bad for brakeing crank. theres 1000000s of 5.0s other there with superchanger and still runing question is how long will it last????? thats always seem to be unknow. 302 can go to 347 max. i was told buy CHP the 351 block can go to a 427 lot more thing can be done with a 351 then a 302 im not saying 302s are junk. 351 u can still run the mustang 5speed the c4 will fit and the small block c6 will it just have to change the yoke with the c6 trans even the aod will bolt to it. i have not heard of a 351 with forged pistons forged pistons are not that $$$$$ 351s are 28 Oz the older 302s are 28OZ to. the later 302s are 50 Oz.
sorry to break it to you but it will be going in a 94 t bird not a stang but any ways i was looking at some things and if i port the heads and throw on some good headers and a dome piston puting me at about 12 to 1 what do you guys think i will be at for power?
If you plan to run 12 to 1 compression ratio, I hope you can buy race gas locally, and don't mind the price, as your engine won't live long on 93 octane.
As to 302 vs 351, it all depends on the power level you want, and the budget you have. If you want big power, and can afford it, a 351 stroker is the way to go. If you want more than 450 hp or so to the wheels, you will most likely split a 302 block, unless your going to a high dollar aftermarket block, and in that case it's more cost effective to go with the 351 based stroker.
Don't kid yourself about the price of these upgrades either. I've been looking into this for some time, and although I'm sure there will be those who will say they've done it for much less, here's what I've come up with.
If I were to go to a 302 stroker, it would cost about $4k when it's all said and done, this would be reuseing the aluminum heads I already have and just buying a shortblock. To go with the 351 stroker, I figure I'm into about $8k, since I will need a lot more parts to make this switch. Be realistic when trying to figure costs of any project. If there's one thing I've learned it's that every project will be over budget till it's done, there are always costs that you didn't figure on in the beginning.
Yeah, I know you can buy the shortblocks for a lot less than what I quoted above, but that's not all you'll need with either swap. If you don't already have a good set of aftermarket heads, you'll need to add about another $1k to the prices.
Hope this doesn't break your bubble, but that's the real world.
These are my opinions others may vary.
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