5.0 Mustang Automatic to Manual Transmission Swap. Will crankshaft match up?
Hi guys i got an 89 5.0 GT pretty much all stock except for exhaust and i was wondering if anyone knew if i could directly swap the auto for a manuel.. Obviously many things will change and thats fine and i have the money. And intelligent people who can halp. But the only thing im worried about is that i heard something about the crankshaft and that it might not match up correctly. If anyone has ever done thing or have any knowledge i would greatly appreciate it if youd chime in.
Was it regarding the pilot bearing? The pilot bearing should go in ok. The new flywheel will bolt right up too.
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1992 Deep Emerald Green Mustang GT Hatch, 5 speed, 2.73s, Mac fenderwell cold air intake, '93 Cobra MAF, Mac 70mm throttle body & spacer, Explorer intakes, Mac unequal headers & offroad pipe, Magnaflow catback, Walbro 110lph fuel pump, Jet adjustable FPR, MSD Blaster coil, Accel 8mm wires, FRPP aluminum quadrant, UPR firewall adjuster, stock cable, Granatelli upper control arms.
Waiting to go on: Granatelli lower control arms, and GT40 Iron heads!
The cranks are the same and the tranny will bolt rite up. Just make sure when you get the new cluctch kit, YOU INSTALL the pilot bearing. It goes presset in the back of the crank.
Youll also need the Manual flywheel disk. A different drive shaft, the tranny harness ,
and im not sure but i also think you need the Computer brain box, and double hump cross member..
Good luck
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91, 5.0 5spd, AFR 165 heads, e303 cam, Edelbrock upper and lower Intakes, bbk egual Headers, bbk 70mm tB, 70mm spacer, 75mm pro mass/24#inj- 1.7 trick flow RRs, BBK Ford R Crome valve covers, Hurst short throw shifter, Edelbrock true roller chain, BBk off road H-piipe, Flowie cat backs, Frame Connectors, Granitily Rear ajustable lower arms, 3.73 gears, Black magic Electric Fan, Under pullies, Ford Racing alum Rad, Msd ignition, 18" cobras, 12"JL audio subs, Rockford Fosg AMP,
Just my two cents but I wish my car came auto, I have a 5-spd. Reason being that the auto does suck stock, but I would kill to have an AOD with a shift kit and stall (all would only be $500.00) and NOTHING will compete off the line, youll see alot of swaps are the opposite when your serious about being fast, even just a stall on there will propably make you think twice.... I wish I had an auto!!
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speedster is right, I wish I had a 5-speed but the auto with a little modding is great. You can't out shift an auto, I have a B&M transpak shiftkit. It really wakes up your trans. Really quick, sharp up shifts i've chriped the tires btwn 2-3 gears at wot. normal driving is fine, just need a stall converter something a step up from the stock unit. unless you drag race alot for street i say 2000-2400 rpm unit would be good. someone else please jump in if you have more info.
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1990 25th Anniversary GT
2003 Explorer Sport XLT 4x4
~"Chevy like a Rock; Yeah it sit's in your driveway going nowhere fast!"~
Well im a stick guy, but ive always had auto. and i think it mostly preference.
Yet i have heard from many AOD guys that the stock tranny blow out quit a bit. NOt sure why? True or NOt? but i guess it just depends on the setup that its combind with..
all in all , good luck
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91, 5.0 5spd, AFR 165 heads, e303 cam, Edelbrock upper and lower Intakes, bbk egual Headers, bbk 70mm tB, 70mm spacer, 75mm pro mass/24#inj- 1.7 trick flow RRs, BBK Ford R Crome valve covers, Hurst short throw shifter, Edelbrock true roller chain, BBk off road H-piipe, Flowie cat backs, Frame Connectors, Granitily Rear ajustable lower arms, 3.73 gears, Black magic Electric Fan, Under pullies, Ford Racing alum Rad, Msd ignition, 18" cobras, 12"JL audio subs, Rockford Fosg AMP,
Well its true that the AOD isn't the best trans from the factory. I had mine rebuilt so it could handle 400+ hp/tq. Just so if I ever do throw a s/c or nos on it I don't have to worry when its going to go. It cost alot, but noone ever said performance was cheap. I prefer a stick in sport cars, but I got a good deal so I took the auto. I say if its a car for crusing or a daily driver go auto, if its a 4x4 go auto. mustangs, camaros, corvettes and etc.... stick all the way its just a better driving exp...unless you race then the auto can be your friend.
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1990 25th Anniversary GT
2003 Explorer Sport XLT 4x4
~"Chevy like a Rock; Yeah it sit's in your driveway going nowhere fast!"~
Hi guys i got an 89 5.0 GT pretty much all stock except for exhaust and i was wondering if anyone knew if i could directly swap the auto for a manuel.. Obviously many things will change and thats fine and i have the money. And intelligent people who can halp. But the only thing im worried about is that i heard something about the crankshaft and that it might not match up correctly. If anyone has ever done thing or have any knowledge i would greatly appreciate it if youd chime in.
i just did this swap on my friends 91 not too long ago. what you need.
T5 trans with bellhousing (assuming you are goin stock)
shifter
flywheel
pilot bearing
release bearing,
clutch fork
clutch cable
manual trans pedal assembly (good time to do the quadrant)
manual trans block plate (one that goes between engine and trans)
clutch disc, pressure plate, and attaching hardware
manual trans shifter bezel
reuseable stuff
starter
driveshaft
bellhousing hardware and most other hardware
pcm
what we found
the hole in the floorboard did not exactly match up to the T5 shifter and we had to cut it back as it was hitting the shifter assembly.
the neutral switch and reverse light harness directly plugs in to the factory harness. we had to do a little wiring to get the neutral switch working properly to get the car started. dont forget to remove the auto shifter and bezel before attempting to put the manual trans in. also remove the cooler lines, and tv cable from the throttle body.
relatively straight foward swap, just leave time for unforseen difficulties. dont forget to put fluid in the manual trans. mercon or mercon V will work fine.
i see that you are in fullerton. pm me if you want to make a deal on your old auto to help offset the cost. im intrested in it.
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speedster is right, I wish I had a 5-speed but the auto with a little modding is great. You can't out shift an auto, I have a B&M transpak shiftkit. It really wakes up your trans. Really quick, sharp up shifts i've chriped the tires btwn 2-3 gears at wot. normal driving is fine, just need a stall converter something a step up from the stock unit. unless you drag race alot for street i say 2000-2400 rpm unit would be good. someone else please jump in if you have more
info.
just built my first aod, and i like it and now i want an auto car! put it in my friends car and it breaks the tires loose in second and will chirp them in second at only half throttle. but his 4.10s kinda help the situation a bit.
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I think it was the pilot bearing which could be the problem. I heard that on some and not all the setup is different and some 5.0s you could directly bolt up the manuel where as others you would have to deal the pilot bearing problem. Either way im still not completely sure what that does. My brother and father know so there actually figuring out the problem as well.
Well looking at your posts alot of you have said that the AOD was a pretty popular setup and ive heard that before. Even my brother says keep it an auto. But my defense is "yeah, i want to go fast but i also want to get the most out of driving experience and whats a better way then having a manuel transmission". The crappy part is that right when i got money to build up the engine my tranny went out. So now i have to put a tranny in instead. I can either get another auto for cheap and still put like $500 into the car or i can get a 5 speed im thinking. Originally i wanted to get heads and like an intake manifold. But that ship has sailed, so anybody got any suggestions. My brother gets most parts for like 75% of there actual costs and i have like $2000 to spend... Any suggestions? Thanks again!
well to put a 5-speed in may cost you 1200-1500 dollars depending if you can locate all the parts needed cheap or used in good condition. What do you have in mods right now?
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1990 25th Anniversary GT
2003 Explorer Sport XLT 4x4
~"Chevy like a Rock; Yeah it sit's in your driveway going nowhere fast!"~
the neutral switch and reverse light harness directly plugs in to the factory harness. we had to do a little wiring to get the neutral switch working properly to get the car started.
Arlo, there are differences in how the auto is wired, which can fry a manual computer, if you put on in with a T5 conversion. Read tmoss's reply in this thread: http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forum...ing-codes.html
It's post #14.
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1992 Deep Emerald Green Mustang GT Hatch, 5 speed, 2.73s, Mac fenderwell cold air intake, '93 Cobra MAF, Mac 70mm throttle body & spacer, Explorer intakes, Mac unequal headers & offroad pipe, Magnaflow catback, Walbro 110lph fuel pump, Jet adjustable FPR, MSD Blaster coil, Accel 8mm wires, FRPP aluminum quadrant, UPR firewall adjuster, stock cable, Granatelli upper control arms.
Waiting to go on: Granatelli lower control arms, and GT40 Iron heads!
Arlo, there are differences in how the auto is wired, which can fry a manual computer, if you put on in with a T5 conversion. Read tmoss's reply in this thread: http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forum...ing-codes.html
It's post #14.
i think we are in the clear because we used the auto computer. and looking at the factory evtm all the wires matched up accordingly.
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i think we are in the clear because we used the auto computer. and looking at the factory evtm all the wires matched up accordingly.
Yeah, you're cool. I thought I read that you changed out the computer, and assumed that you went with a manual one.
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1992 Deep Emerald Green Mustang GT Hatch, 5 speed, 2.73s, Mac fenderwell cold air intake, '93 Cobra MAF, Mac 70mm throttle body & spacer, Explorer intakes, Mac unequal headers & offroad pipe, Magnaflow catback, Walbro 110lph fuel pump, Jet adjustable FPR, MSD Blaster coil, Accel 8mm wires, FRPP aluminum quadrant, UPR firewall adjuster, stock cable, Granatelli upper control arms.
Waiting to go on: Granatelli lower control arms, and GT40 Iron heads!
5.0 Mustang Automatic to Manual Transmission Swap. Will crankshaft match up? 
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