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Old 01-21-2009   #361 (permalink)
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I run 3.73 gears and 245/45-18 and cruising is pretty much a 55-60 thing. 70 on the freeway and it is buzzing. I run a C-4 no OD. I love the combo though. Pulls really nice and enough top end to satisfy me. This is the most gear I would go if it was a street car. You could go 4.10 if you go to a larger tire to compensate. I am looking at a set of 275/65-18 for the rear. That will fill the wheel well up with just a slight amount of clearing.
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Old 01-28-2009   #362 (permalink)
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I dont see how everyone has problems with 3.73 gears. I my self have a 93 gt with some mods and i have 3.73's and i can easily take it above 125 on the freeway. at times when on 5th gear going about 80mph i down shift to 4th gear and haul asssss. no problem..I love the 3.73, i will be installing in my new 92 coupe.
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3:73's are awsome, you won't be dissapointed.
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Old 02-09-2009   #364 (permalink)
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I have 3.73's as well. I still manage to get 27 miles per gallon or better driving at 60 miles an hour with a very little modified 302.
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Old 02-11-2009   #365 (permalink)
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Hey guys,
I'm leaning more towards the 3.73's on my 92 5.0 vert. I drive it on the street 70% of the time at like 15-40mph. And the other 30% i drive it on the highway at like 60-90mph...Is 3.73's appropriate this they way i drive my car or should i go with a different set of gears??
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I have my 82 glx with warmed over 302. .60 over 351 heads etc. Now it has a c6 transmission. I want a street car that i can run at the track ever other weekend time permitting. I'm thinking 3.55s just for a streetable car?
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Old 03-25-2009   #367 (permalink)
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I am going with 3:73 when I decide to change my gears. 92 Mustang (Auto)
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The transmissions in the 'Stangs must be geared way different then the one in my '04 Dodge Ram truck was because I put 4.10's in it and it was still pretty good on the freeway but the '89 GT I just picked up has 3.73's and it wines out pretty fast. It does have a lot of punch off of the line but man, if you're going on the freeway forget it. Someone said that I may have a 4 cyl T5 in it, that they were geared different, not sure if it's true or not but I'd not mind having 3.55's instead of the 3.73's, at least where freeway driving is conserned. I can't imagine 4.10's in this car, it'd be great for track but for a daily driver, forget it. JMHO, YMMV.
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Ive read thru this thread a bit and I think more people favor the 3.73 gear, but I thought a 3.55 would be more what I wanted. I had a friend who had 3.73s and his car was nice and quick, but it was a bit revvy on the highway. So Im mainly figuring from experienceing his car. I still want some nice highway ability without sounding like a crazy car on the highway.

From what a few here have posted, it sounds like the difference is pretty small b/n the two... so Im still debating.. I have time , as Im not going to decide and buy for a while.. but right now Im thinking 3.55.
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in my 93 gt w/ aod 373 helped alot gas milage in the city went up to about 22 mpg city driving and lots of hard light to light jumps are at 15 mpg so its not that bad now highway i have know clue i never drive more than 5 miles solid at 65 but the tac says 2000 so its ok
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yeah i say 3.55's but then again ive never tried anything else besides stock and 3.55's
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Loving this thread...
It just helped me clarify that my problem before was not my 3.55s!
This was 10 years ago (car has been sitting since) when I only used 93 (whatever Sunoco's best was, maybe ultra 94 or something?) and was constantly hoping on it everywhere I went. I usually got FOUR yes 4 MPG average with city and little highway driving!
You can imagine how stoked I was when I got 10 MPG with mostly highway! Ha Ha, with that being said I thought my carb was to big for the motor and the gears played a big part. I found out the carb is only 600CFM so it's not bad and now this post shows that its not the gears!
Must be my timing, I am working on it now and noted a LOT wrong with things! From vacuum advance (as well as all vacuum lines) through the distributor being 90° off (but re-wired). I also finally adjusted a lot on the carb yesterday that was WAY off due to it previously being on a chevy 350. Things you notice 10 years later...

Thank you, because I didn't want to put the stock gears back in!!!
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There is a logical science to this.

When racing with nearly unlimited traction you want the car to go through the lights at maximum possible safe RPM in the highest drive gear. That would NOT normally be overdrive.

When you are traction limited a lower gear (taller ratio) can actually slow you down. With a manual, especially with the T5's wide ratio for 1st, you may not want such a steep gear.

My car is a good example. It had 4.10 gears with a T5 when I bought it. Running off the basically stock motor (except for GT40 heads and induction and headers) and 245/ 60/ 16 tires, there was no reason to use first gear. I could start in second and run the same ET as starting in first, and I went through the traps at 5500 RPM or so. This is safe for the motor and what it needed except I could have used much less gear and used 1,2, and finished in 3rd.

My 89 trans has 1st 3.35 2nd 1.93 3rd 1.29 4th 1.00 5th .675

So a 3rd gear finish that would equal the 4.10 would require 1/1.29 = .7752 times 4.10 = 3.18 gear. If I had a rear gear around 3.18 the car would be just as fast except I would use 1,2 and 3.

When I added a cam, heads, intake, and much stickier tires the car was finishing at 6000 RPM in fourth. Now 1st gear mattered. So I needed the 4.10

Now that I added a blower the car goes 7000 RPM in fourth before finishing the 1/4 mile. Now I have problems. I have to cut about 1000 RPM out of the finish-line engine speed at MORE MPH (because it has never reached the real top end because it has too much gear).

My best estimate is a 6000/7000 = .857 times 4.10 = 3.51 gear will get me at 6000 RPM about 100-150 feet before the traps. I am 7000 RPM there now with the 4.10, I want to be 6000 RPM there so hopefully it will be about 6500 (cam maximum RPM range) at the finish line.

The ONLY guess in this is how much RPM the engine will gain in that last 150 feet where I now have to coast.

I had three choices. I could have used a taller tire, but it would take 27 * 1.167 = 31.5 inch tall tire. That won't work.

I could buy a transmission that would let me power shift into overdrive, and it would have to have a 6000/7000= .86 overdrive and that would only be used for the last 150 feet or so. My car is traveling 176 feet per second at the end of the 1/4 mile (FPS is MPH times about 1.47), so if I shifted at 6500 RPM I would be in overdrive for only about 1.5 seconds to 2 seconds maximum. Hardly worth the abuse on the trans or clutch.

I could go to a 3.55 gear and leave everything else alone and finish in fourth. This would give me more distance and time in first, second, and third. I wouldn't be rushed to grab 2nd.

I could also use a higher rear gear (less ratio) and a taller tire. If I went with or could find a 28.5 inch tall tire I would gain only 100* (27/28.5)= 94.74% gear reduction.

I need (6000/7000)*100=85.7 % of what I have now. So that is 10% short. .9 times 4.10 = 3.69 : 1 gear. I could use a 3.73 and a 28.5 inch tall tire.

With an automatic I would have to figure in torque convertor slippage at the end, so it probably would require LESS than a 3.55 gear or a much taller tire if the car went the same speed.

The gear you pick really depends on the traction, the MPH at the end of the track, the red line RPM (you want to be past the power peak but safe), and the tire size.

Another reason I'm going to the 3.55 gear (with Cobra differential and 31 spline 4 lug axles)? I plan on making the car faster. I want a ten second street car, and that will mean 125 MPH or so in the 1/4. I can always hammer out the wheel wells and add a taller tire later to cut the gear back some more when the car goes faster, or I might just build a higher RPM motor so it runs through at 7000 or more. For right now though, there is no debate for me. It is all in the numbers. If I want to run 120 MPH and have a tire fit the wheel wells, I MUST install a 3.55 gear. There is no other logical choice.

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I am still debating..............
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So I was in the Main 5.0 Tech forum and seen that the last post (just before mine) is 373....so I think its decided, 3.73s lol
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