Go Back   Ford Mustang Forums > Mustang > 5.0 Mustang > 5.0L Tech

Welcome to our Mustang forums where Mustangers come together to hang out, discuss and enjoy their favorite Mustang hobby with fellow Mustang enthusiasts. We invite everyone to read, post, and enjoy our Mustang forum as well as the many other sections of our site.

You are currently viewing our forums as a guest. By joining our community you gain access to post topics, communicate with members, upload your photos and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and free so why wait, join our Mustang community today! If you have any problems with registration or your account login, please contact support.

5.0 Mustangs Tech Forum

5.0L Talk | 5.0L Tech | 94-95 Tech | 1979-1993   1994   1995   Upload Pictures | Timeslips | Power Adders | Mustang Tech 


Reply   Post New Thread
Unread 11-07-2007   #1 (permalink)
Spraguepsycho1 is offline Apprentice

Classic Member


Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 102 Threads: 5
 Spraguepsycho1's Country Flag  View Spraguepsycho1's 3 photos
Sprague River   Oregon
Spraguepsycho1 is on a distinguished road
Default 1991-1993 Thunderbird 5.0 questions.

I might be picking up a free 1991-1993 Thunderbird with the 5.0 and aod transmission in the next day or so. I know the Thunderbird had a more restrictive intake and exhaust than the ones used on the Mustangs, but is the rest of the engine the same (same cam, same throttle body, computer?). I am mainly wondering if it uses the mass air sensor like the mustang, or the harder to modify system used in the trucks. Suposedly the engine runs good, but a solenoid or piston in the transmission went out, so the transmission won't enguage, that's why I'm getting it for free. I'm not sure yet if I will keep the car to use as a daily driver or not, depends on what kind of condition the rest of it is in when I finally get to see it. If the rest of the car is trashed, I might just pull the engine and transmission out, and swap over my performer rpm intake and electronic distributor, along with a bigger camshaft, then drop it into my 1965 Mustang coupe. Any info is greatly appreciated. I've searched Thunderbird forums and couldn't find much as far as performance/interchangability information, so figured I'd try here.
__________________
John

'65 Mustang Coupe (daily driver turned project car)
Spraguepsycho1 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiTweet this Post!
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Unread 11-07-2007   #2 (permalink)
EagleAutosports is offline SHELBY GT-40 ULTIMATE Member

4.6L Member
5.0L Member


Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 51,459 Threads: 257
 EagleAutosports's Country Flag  View EagleAutosports's 548 photos  View EagleAutosports's 3 classified ads  View EagleAutosports's HomePage
Graham   North Carolina
EagleAutosports has much to be proud ofEagleAutosports has much to be proud ofEagleAutosports has much to be proud ofEagleAutosports has much to be proud ofEagleAutosports has much to be proud ofEagleAutosports has much to be proud ofEagleAutosports has much to be proud ofEagleAutosports has much to be proud of
Send a message via MSN to EagleAutosports Send a message via Yahoo to EagleAutosports
Default

The base engine is just about the same but the cam is different. You could use many Mustang parts on it, mechanically it'll respond to mods as well. The computer is also different, but you could swap over a Mustang box into it. The Thunderbird computer has different settings than a Mustang.
__________________
AFM Site Administrator
Member: Mustang Club of America #82740, White Mustang Registry #362, NMRA, Fun Ford Weekend, Mustangs of Burlington

MOOG Certified Technician
For mods and sound clips, see profile and gallery.

EagleAutosports is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiTweet this Post!
Reply With Quote
Unread 11-07-2007   #3 (permalink)
Spraguepsycho1 is offline Apprentice

Classic Member


Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 102 Threads: 5
 Spraguepsycho1's Country Flag  View Spraguepsycho1's 3 photos
Sprague River   Oregon
Spraguepsycho1 is on a distinguished road
Default

Sounds good. Hopefully I'll hear back from the guy today or tomorrow, and I'll pick it up. If it's clean, I might just build the engine and keep it in the T-bird, and just use it as a play/travel car but I also like the idea of getting my '65 back on the road. (decisions decisions) lol
__________________
John

'65 Mustang Coupe (daily driver turned project car)
Spraguepsycho1 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiTweet this Post!
Reply With Quote
Unread 11-07-2007   #4 (permalink)
stevo1111 is offline Made Member

5.0L Member


Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 330 Threads: 29
 stevo1111's Country Flag
Meriden   Connecticut
stevo1111 is on a distinguished road
Default

Mine had- ported and polished E7's, cobra upper and lower intake, e303 cam, bumped up timing, mild shift kit, 3.73 gears in an eaton posi, true dual exhaust... it was still wicked slow. Slower infact then my bone stock 1995 Mark VIII. This being said, pre 92 come with forged internals. They differ only by upper intake ( or so I've been told on several occasions) and exhaust manifolds. Cam and such are the same.
__________________
Never Buy an Auto!
stevo1111 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiTweet this Post!
Reply With Quote
Unread 11-07-2007   #5 (permalink)
LedFox is offline Apprentice

5.0L Member


Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 98 Threads: 20
 LedFox's Country Flag  View LedFox's 16 photos
Canton   Michigan
LedFox is on a distinguished road
Default

I am pretty sure the cam is not the same, hence the different firing order.

1-3-7-2-6-5-4-8 (5.0L HO and 351W order).
1-5-4-2-6-3-7-8 (straight 302)

The mustang 5.0 was the HO, while the 5.0 in the Thunderbird was not. I maybe mistaken, but I am sure that someone here knows for sure. Just something to look at.
__________________
1992 Mustang lx 5.0 convertible, Saleen body kit, headers, Steeda Tri-Ax short throw shifter, H pipe, Dual Flowmasters, Underdrive Pulleys, Subframe connectors, GT-40 305X heads, BBK SSI upper and lower intake, 1.6 roller rockers, 24lb/hr injectors, C&L Power Pipe, 65 mm Throttle body, 73mm MAF, X303 FRPP camshaft.

276.8 rwhp GOAL 300 rwhp
309.2 rwtq
LedFox is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiTweet this Post!
Reply With Quote
Unread 11-07-2007   #6 (permalink)
Spraguepsycho1 is offline Apprentice

Classic Member


Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 102 Threads: 5
 Spraguepsycho1's Country Flag  View Spraguepsycho1's 3 photos
Sprague River   Oregon
Spraguepsycho1 is on a distinguished road
Default

Everything I've found online so far says the '91-'93 were the HO, the 80's models may have been standard 5.0's.
__________________
John

'65 Mustang Coupe (daily driver turned project car)
Spraguepsycho1 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiTweet this Post!
Reply With Quote
Unread 11-07-2007   #7 (permalink)
FoxChassis is offline MACH I Member

5.0L Member


Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,928 Threads: 12
 FoxChassis's Country Flag
NOYB
FoxChassis is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spraguepsycho1 View Post
Everything I've found online so far says the '91-'93 were the HO, the 80's models may have been standard 5.0's.
That is correct.

There was also no 5.0L in Thunderbird or Cougars in '89 and '90 (the highest output engine was the supercharged 3.8L V6). And in '94 the V8 was the 4.6L, hence the reason why the H.O. 5.0 stopped after '93.
__________________
Wanted (Dead or Alive): VINs, Vehicle Certification Labels, Buck Tags, Build Sheets, Window Stickers, Owner Cards, Warranty Tags, History 999 Reports, Invoices, Axle Tags
FoxChassis is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiTweet this Post!
Reply With Quote
Unread 11-18-2007   #8 (permalink)
LPG21051 is offline Rookie

Classic Member


Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 1 Threads: 0
 LPG21051's Country Flag
Taylors   South Carolina
LPG21051 is on a distinguished road
Send a message via Skype™ to LPG21051
Default T-bird 5.0

I have a 66 conv v8/c4. I want to put a 5.0 AOD in it, but I have almost given up on finding a 90-93 mustang donor within my budget.

A local used car lot owner suggested a 92 t-bird (he had one for $700) with a 5.0 AOD, but I did not have any information on doing a swap with this engine, so I passed.

If I understand what you guys are saying, the t-bird 5.0 is an HO? and would be suitable as a '66 upgrade?

And I was thinking that it would be better for the PCM to match the engine and transmission and would be more appropriate in this type of swap rather than a mustang PCM (since it would be set up for a different engine).
LPG21051 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiTweet this Post!
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply   Post New Thread



Thread Tools



Mustang Photos
Mustang Links    Top Sites    RSS    Link To Us    Add to Favorites    Archive    Terms of Use    Site Rules    Privacy    Contact    Sponsors    Advertise   
AllFordMustangs is not affiliated with or endorsed by Ford Motor Company. ©Copyright 2002-2011 All Auto Enthusiasts Network

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162