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Im new to this site and two the mustang world! I have a 1994 gt mustang 5speed. It has 100k on the odo, every fluid has been changed and has had a full tune up. I got the beast for about 1200 dollars, it was sitting for two years!!
My question is that i put on flow master exhaust and was wondering that, i was thinking about getting the off road bbk h pipe, will that make a little difference on the mustang? and is it ok to run with no cats, beside the smog aspect.
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I have a BBK X Pipe and I like it. A little different sound than the standard H pipe. If you do not need to pass emissions then you can go without cats. The car will be quite a bit louder without the cats!!
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Will i see any horsepower diffrence?
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Not much since it looks like you still have the stock exhaust headers. If you do headers and the mid-pipe you will see better gains.
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So should i first go with cold air intake, then the mid pipe? and headers
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If it were me, I'd say start from the front and work your way to the back. Getting your CAI first, then headers, and mid pipe. That's just me though. Or you could do it financially, and get the expensive stuff out of the way first. In which more than likely, you'd be looking at getting some headers, then your mid pipe, and then your CAI. But it could vary greatly. Just depends on what you're going for.
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Im looking for something that when i get in it scares me even a littel, something that can be a daily driver though would enjoy to take to the track.
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Well then you're going in the right direction. I'm no expert, but I'd say if you want it to scare you, you've got quite a ways to go.
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i would suggest getting the cold air intake and throwing it on now, and saving up for the headers and midpipe and doing them at once. cuz getting exhaust components apart is no fun. thats what im gonna do anyway... i dont feel like wrestling apart pipes that have basically been welded together by heat under a car on jackstands so ill just cut it in pieces
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Random question.. I currently own an o/r h pipe and was thinking about going to a hi flow catted setup. Instead of spending a lot of money on an aftermarket midpipe could I just buy some weld in cats for my current h pipe and not have problems with emissions? I saw some on americanmuscle and it got me thinking. What do you guys think? Not trying to steal your thread by the way, just thought it was a relavent question

And if you mean scare you as in its so loud then an o/r midpipe along with some headers and mufflers will do that trick. Mine gets too much attention as is
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Random question.. I currently own an o/r h pipe and was thinking about going to a hi flow catted setup. Instead of spending a lot of money on an aftermarket midpipe could I just buy some weld in cats for my current h pipe and not have problems with emissions? I saw some on americanmuscle and it got me thinking. What do you guys think? Not trying to steal your thread by the way, just thought it was a relavent question

And if you mean scare you as in its so loud then an o/r midpipe along with some headers and mufflers will do that trick. Mine gets too much attention as is
If you don't have to take your car in for emissions testing, then why in the world would you want to go back with cat's?????

I can understand if you're getting tested, but if you're not then that wouldn't make any sense.
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I do have to get tested unfortunately. I bought the car and it had a custom made o/r h pipe. The first time I had to take it into emissions I somehow passed running the o/r mid pipe, but now with the slp's+the new and more aggressive motor I'm pretty sure they would do a visual check and fail me. So I thought I'd just throw some cats on and not have to worry about it. I was thinking about putting some cutouts before the cats so I can have it loud if I want
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O/R pipes make the engine breathe better, therefore to a degree, increase the engines output. If you are set on putting cats on, you can get some hi flow cats that only reduce engine output by around 1 or 2 hp. I would get a good CAI, the stock piece has a baffle that causes a restriction. The stock headers are ok for what they are, so you COULD do those later and get a nice midpipe and a good set of mufflers. maybe down the road get a cobra upper and lower intake or maybe something better flowing. gears would really give you the *whoa* factor you are looking for. If/when you do this, you could have the block stroked and bored and have the bottom end built with forged internals. Then a forced induction would be in store maybe.....I could go on and on . good luck with whatever you choice, and other questions, just ask
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I do have to get tested unfortunately. I bought the car and it had a custom made o/r h pipe. The first time I had to take it into emissions I somehow passed running the o/r mid pipe, but now with the slp's+the new and more aggressive motor I'm pretty sure they would do a visual check and fail me. So I thought I'd just throw some cats on and not have to worry about it. I was thinking about putting some cutouts before the cats so I can have it loud if I want
Ok, well if you have to pass emissions then that's understandable. I would see if you can pass emissions as it is now first though. You don't want to throw on some cat's if you don't have to right?
I mean, if you passed emissions with the old motor, then the that new fresh motor you have might actually burn the air/fuel mixture better and maybe help you with emissions.

I've never had to do an emissions test, so I don't really know how they work. So I might be wrong about what I said above...
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Ok, well if you have to pass emissions then that's understandable. I would see if you can pass emissions as it is now first though. You don't want to throw on some cat's if you don't have to right?
I mean, if you passed emissions with the old motor, then the that new fresh motor you have might actually burn the air/fuel mixture better and maybe help you with emissions.

I've never had to do an emissions test, so I don't really know how they work. So I might be wrong about what I said above...
Yeah I'll probably try that. For the 95 mustangs w/ the OBD1 systems they just plug into the computer, but I have heard of people getting screwed with loud cars as they do a visual check. If I do need to get cats I'll probably just have a new mid pipe made and throw 2 hi flow cats on there and install headers at the same time. Anyone know of a good brand to go with? I saw some pypes http://www.americanmuscle.com/pypes-...converter.html on americanmuscle.com but if there are cheaper/better ones to buy I'd prefer those.

My plan would be to get the cats clamped in so I could take them off if I want or run cutouts before the cats. Either way I'd like to be able to have my car sound the way it does now.
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