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Red face cams for my 94 gt

hello all... i was wondering if i could get some advice. i don't know much about the details of cams. I know their basic function but cant tell witch one or kind to get for my application.

my gt has a locked rear end (stock gears), long tube CIA, MSD street fighter ignition, BBK long tube headers, steeda shifter (I know doesn't effect HP), and 125 shot zex wet nitrous.

I dont want to get totally crazy with the HP because i want to do normal daily driving with it but still have some fun with friends on the weekends. My goal is right around 350-375 HP on my 302. I figure based off my base dyno of 202HP befor the Nitrous. I have not dynoed the car sense i added the zex kit. I dont want to mess with changing heads or anything like that's. which is why I went with the zex wet kit.

What cam would you guys recommend for me to get a little more power? I have always love the way they sound to. I don't drag race and don't have a race track here. most of all the stuff we do is from a rolling start. I assume that the nitrous would handle most the mid range power but im not always going to have nitrous in the bottle so that's where the cam would come in. is there a cam that would complement nitrous? Would changing to 3.73 gears make any difference one way or the other?

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I think for the least headache I would go with a steeda no.19 cam. 94'-95's are notorious for issues whenever you do a cam swap. The computer simply cannot adjust correctly so you usually need a good tune or chip with the specs of the cam burnt into it. The steeda no.19 comes with the same lobe separation as the factory cam but with bigger lift and duration. This should also work well with your nitrous setup.
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ty john. does steeda make a chip to go with thier no. 19 cam that your aware of and would it be worth it?
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A cam without any other mods like heads and intake will net you almost no power. Also installing just a cam is a big job and plenty of disassembly. You might wanna look at getting gears to get a little more get up and go. A cam should be the last piece of the puzzle.
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A cam without any other mods like heads and intake will net you almost no power. Also installing just a cam is a big job and plenty of disassembly. You might wanna look at getting gears to get a little more get up and go. A cam should be the last piece of the puzzle.
Yeah I was going to suggest this as well, but since he is using nitrous the effect the cam will have on the car will be pretty significant.
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that makes alot of sence. I did want to do 3.73 gears. maybe ill start there, see how I feel and go from there. I just think that 4.10 gears would be to much for my type of driving. But again I have never even been in a car with eather of those gears. Is there kuch difference between them and what are they? I will not be drag racing the car at a track or running it on a circuit track. mostly roll on starts and light to light type stuff (I know thats a drag race lol). on the other hand the car will be a D/D.
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Back in the days I had a simple combo of 3.55, tubular intake, some head work and juice. It was my DD for many years of school and work and tons of fun in the early 90's. Quite formidable.
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that is what im looking for. a DD that I can have fun with every now and then. and stock is no fun lol. you guys thing spray steeda no.19 cam and 3.73 gears with my all ready CAI and H pipe exhaust and bbk long tube headers ok for a stock motor and trans??? I dont want to damage the car by pushing it to hard. if I can get 350 to 375 HP I would be really stoked and if i can do it and not get into the car thousands of dollars in mods and upgrades that would be a plus.
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that is what im looking for. a DD that I can have fun with every now and then. and stock is no fun lol. you guys thing spray steeda no.19 cam and 3.73 gears with my all ready CAI and H pipe exhaust and bbk long tube headers ok for a stock motor and trans??? I dont want to damage the car by pushing it to hard. if I can get 350 to 375 HP I would be really stoked and if i can do it and not get into the car thousands of dollars in mods and upgrades that would be a plus.
thanks again for all your guys suggestions and recommendations
I was kind of out of it when I read your first post...I didn't notice the HP goal you want to reach.

A few things you need to keep in mind if you want to push the car with nitrous..
1. The stock valve springs are not very strong to begin with. Add a cam and nitrous into the mix and you are bound to break something in the top end. Maybe 1.7 roller rockers, better springs and pushrods are in order?
2. The pistons are NOT forged, they are hypereutectic. They are great for N/A engines because they do not expand or contract as much. But they cannot handle the added compression of boost or nitrous very well.
3. Just because a kit says "100 shot, 150 shot, 200 shot" does not mean that is how much it is going to add. That's how much it CAN add with the right setup. With the stock heads and intake, I would be surprised if you cracked 300hp even with a 125 or 150 shot.
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thanks john thats alot of info. I plan on getting a acurrate dyno with the nitrous in the next week or two, I'll post the results. I didnt want to have to tear into the motor that far. with that being said, I want the car to last many many years and will do what ever it takes to keep it safe. it will just have to be rocker, springs, and pushrods one year and pistons and cam another. would it be cheaper to just replace the heads (gt40 seem to be popular) instead of all the parts in stock heads( parts vs labor)?
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would it be cheaper to just replace the heads (gt40 seem to be popular) instead of all the parts in stock heads( parts vs labor)?
Depends if you are willing to do the top end work yourself or not. It would be cheaper to change out the valvetrain yourself than to find a set of gt40s that have been machined and upgraded already. Every blue moon or so, you will be able to find some nice gt40s that have come off an explorer and upgraded. Most people will charge a good bit for them though. If you can find some quality gt40s for a decent price, absolutely! Throw on a decent intake or port the stock one and you will have a very potent motor with the nitrous added in.
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