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Old 05-21-2006   #1 (permalink)
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Default 1995 Mustang GT, how far can i go with stock ecu

hello i have a 95 gt, it has the common bolt ons (k&n cold air, 65mm throttle body, longtube headers,underdrive pulleys, 160f t-stat, 14btdc, pypes catback, 3;55 gears, mac short throw shifter,18x10 saleen wheels in the rear, 18x9 up front).my question is i have a port matched and polished cobra intake, a set of gt40 heads also ported and polished, and i am going to run anE cam with 1.6 roller rockers, has anyone ran this combo or something close to it? and did it affect the stock ecu? this seems like a mild set up but with everything i have read about the 95 ecu i thought i would ask. thanks for any help
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hello i have a 95 gt, it has the common bolt ons (k&n cold air, 65mm throttle body, longtube headers,underdrive pulleys, 160f t-stat, 14btdc, pypes catback, 3;55 gears, mac short throw shifter,18x10 saleen wheels in the rear, 18x9 up front).my question is i have a port matched and polished cobra intake, a set of gt40 heads also ported and polished, and i am going to run anE cam with 1.6 roller rockers, has anyone ran this combo or something close to it? and did it affect the stock ecu? this seems like a mild set up but with everything i have read about the 95 ecu i thought i would ask. thanks for any help
Well i've got a somewhat similar setup, the e-303 cam was my first mod haha, a looong time ago. The car is still driveable but you will have some idle issues. I dont know if you have a manual or auto. Youll have more troubles with an auto (ie: it won't idle while in gear)
But i found when i did my gears i kept hitting the rev limiter, but at the time I had already purchased a tweecer RT so it was an easy fix. If i were you i would suggest getting a custom tune or a tweecer/something similar. My room mate and i have played around with it quite a bit and i have noticed a big difference in just normal driving. I have much better throttle response, you can change the shift points/ how hard the car shifts. And of course squeezed out some extra ponies I would say if your computer inclined or know someone that is I would go with the do it yourself tuner, else find a good shop somewhere to burn you a chip. I would go the tweecer route just because if you decide to change parts later on down the road you dont have to buy another chip, and with a tweecer you're going to be able to do a lot more daily driving tuning also
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thanks for the info. i am running a 5 speed. are the idle issues bad enough to prevent me from driving the car until i can get a chip burned. theres a place over here in manassas Va who will burn a chip and dyno tune the set up for 600 bucks. i know the tweecer will allow for further mods but this being my wifes car i am going to keep it mild. i dont see anymore engine mods in the future. i think maybe clutch, flywheel, and drive shaft, along with some control arms after the engine is finished. 95's sure are a pain in the ass but that body sytle is alot more sytlish than the fox, my opinion not t o mention the interior on the 95 is alot nicer. any way thanks
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IMO the e303 doesnt have near the idle problems most people seem to think. Most of the problems that I have seen seem to be caused by things not being set up correctly or by trying to use the cam on a speed density car.

160f t-stat is probably too cold. Without tweecer or a custom tune that can change the ECT table, the ECU will probably never go into closed loop.

Which shop in Manassas are you talking about? I didnt know there were any dyno/tune shops out there?

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blade 10 the shop in manassas, va is called excessive motor sports. it is off of euclid ave just pass osbourn park high school. the phone number is 703-331-1422. the address is 9207 venture ct. manassas park.:thumbsup
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I have a similar setup but with the f-303 cam and also have the stupid idle issues, not only does it suck it is embarrasing!!!
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Default Stage 3 tfs cam good idle stock comp

I HAVE A 95 GTS I HAVE INSTALLED STAGE 3 CNC PORTED H/I/C WITH 42INJ WITH A CALIBRATED PROM WITH A V1 NO TUNE BUT PLAYING WITH TIMING AND FUEL PRESSURE.GRANT IT ITS NOT SMART BEING I HAVE A SC BUT IM FIGHTING ELECT PROBLEMS COMMON WITH 95 STARTS WHEN IT WANTS 2 GOOD LUCK I WOULD PUT IN ON AND TRY IT OUT
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hello i have a 95 gt, it has the common bolt ons (k&n cold air, 65mm throttle body, longtube headers,underdrive pulleys, 160f t-stat, 14btdc, pypes catback, 3;55 gears, mac short throw shifter,18x10 saleen wheels in the rear, 18x9 up front).my question is i have a port matched and polished cobra intake, a set of gt40 heads also ported and polished, and i am going to run anE cam with 1.6 roller rockers, has anyone ran this combo or something close to it? and did it affect the stock ecu? this seems like a mild set up but with everything i have read about the 95 ecu i thought i would ask. thanks for any help
Your planned combo is good for about 275whp/300wtq but the idle will have a definite lope. If you want a smoother idle, go for the CompCams XE270HR-14 (LSA 114) instead of the E-303 cam (LSA 110). As an added bonus you'll get a lot more torque lower down the rpm range with only slightly less HP.
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[quote=1970must;455625]hello i have a 95 gt, it has the common bolt ons (k&n cold air, 65mm throttle body, longtube headers,underdrive pulleys, 160f t-stat, 14btdc, pypes catback, 3;55 gears, mac short throw shifter,18x10 saleen wheels in the rear, 18x9 up front).my question is i have a port matched and polished cobra intake, a set of gt40 heads also ported and polished, and i am going to run anE cam with 1.6 roller rockers, has anyone ran this combo or something close to it? and did it affect the stock ecu? this seems like a mild set up but with everything i have read about the 95 ecu i thought i would ask. thanks for any help[/quote
For your situation I would definately look for a cam that works well for your computer. These are not foxes, you cannot just throw a hci combo and expect it to work. You would be money ahead to find a cam that works for that computer. Other wise you are as far as you can go with that combo without some sort of tune.
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I think the idle issues have to do with the 1995 obd2 ecu . I installed a ecam in my 95 and have issues with it at idle. I also had the same cam in a 92 with absolutly no problems with the idle and a stock ecu. Both cars had the same heads and were 5 speed cars.
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yeah the 95 computers are not as "mod friendly" as the 93 and earlier fox body computers.
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95's are OBD I ecu.
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hello i have a 95 gt, it has the common bolt ons (k&n cold air, 65mm throttle body, longtube headers,underdrive pulleys, 160f t-stat, 14btdc, pypes catback, 3;55 gears, mac short throw shifter,18x10 saleen wheels in the rear, 18x9 up front).my question is i have a port matched and polished cobra intake, a set of gt40 heads also ported and polished, and i am going to run anE cam with 1.6 roller rockers, has anyone ran this combo or something close to it? and did it affect the stock ecu? this seems like a mild set up but with everything i have read about the 95 ecu i thought i would ask. thanks for any help
I dont know if im too late to help, but I got a 95 cobra with almost the same set up. I had everything but a cam. Then I went ahead and went with the E-303 cam. My computer has gone all stupid with its idle since the cam. May want to try someother cam unless you know something I dont. Mine is bad enough I dont trust it, to drive.
Aand its a 5-speed, but the cobra computer is a little different. The cobra computer has a calibration to run 24# injectors with the GT MAF unit. I still havent got a direction to go, lots of options on this forum, but I dont Know that any will Fix our problem, for a fact but I havent tried them yet.
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