heres a list of my "few" bolt-ons. might be alot to some but a few to me.
typhoon upper and lower intake
70mm bbk throttle body
70mm maf and 93 cobra computer
24lb injectors
conical k&n air filter with stock inlet rubber tube
NOS brand inline fuel pump
NOS brand 75 shot dry kit
adjustable fpr running 45psi at idle
crane roller cam 2031
1.7 crane rocker arms
still stock but lightly ported e7 heads
electric fan
no ac or smog
built C6 tranny with reverse manual valvebody and transbrake
3000 stall
3.73 gears and detroit locker
full length headers, offroad h-pipe and flowmaster catback
yea its quite a few parts but it is minor to me. if you race at KCIR then you've probably seen this car there racing. 89 gt hatch regatta blue with a white stripe that starts from the center of the hood and wraps around the sides of the car to the rear bumper. a friend of mine had it and raced it there running 13.2 - 13.4's all day long without the following parts: nos kit, nos fuel pump, adjustable fpr and the c6 tranny stuff. when he had it , it had the old 5 speed from my old 84 predator in it.
not all cars run the same from the factory. no 2 motors are identical, bearing tolerances and other things have to be taken into consideration therefore some might put out more power at the flywheel than others. they just rated all of them for 225hp and 300lbs of torque in 87-92. others may have a .5 hp gain or maybe up to 3hp than others.
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84 Predator Mustang GT302R [Gone]
89GT: built fairly good (sold)
92LX: 4cyl to 5.0 conv. completed on the cheap (sold)
88GT: 302/AOD,stock 2.73's and traclok, LT's, custom 2 1/2" exhaust made by me with thrush chambered mufflers dumped at rear axle, hayden electric fan..more to come, daily driver.
lol 12 sec with h/c/i and nitrous is good but u make it soud like u bolted on some headers and threw in some gears and ran a 12 like i said they were dogs out out of the factory but they have potentional put on some decent heads a cam and an intake and 13's are very possible i might be younger than you but that doesnt mean ur any better than me or that you necesarily know more than me im not saying no sotck 5.0 could run a 14 if we kept at im sure we could of got mine to hit high 14s but we only ran it twice im just saying a stock 1 running 14's is very abnormal
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93 lx 5.0, king kobra clutch, bbk 65mm throttle body, 3.73's, electric fan, full length headers, march underdrive pulleys, no smog pump, cats cut off,bbk cold air intake, edelbrock performers, 24lb injectors, 255 lph fuel pump, trick flow track heat intake and crane 2030 13.77@102
lol 12 sec with h/c/i and nitrous is good but u make it soud like u bolted on some headers and threw in some gears and ran a 12 like i said they were dogs out out of the factory but they have potentional put on some decent heads a cam and an intake and 13's are very possible
1988 LX 5.0L/five-speed coupe, ordered WITHOUT air conditioning
Microburst computer module, off-road exhaust w/o mufflers, removed front sway bar, underdrive pulleys, 160º thermostat, 26"x8" Goodyear slicks, 3.73 gears, and a short belt nets 12.99 @ 103 in March of '89.
STOCK heads
STOCK cam
STOCK intakes
STOCK headers
STOCK throttle body
NO nitrous, supercharger, or turbocharger
that guy knows his stuff, and the sad part he is only 21, that i give him credit. he's probably spent more time at the track then i have on the streets lol. and the funny part is he's running lower times than me without any power adder and not even half the parts i have in my own car.
just a question tho, you know that 93 5.0's have 20 less hp and 25lbs of torque less than the 87-92's did right?. that right there is why you car isnt going any faster with just a few bolt ons. you really should read about other peoples cars from back in the early 80's to early 90's like Foxchassis posted. you'd be surprised how many people have hit the 12 sec zone with hardly any engine modifications to their car. its all in the suspension and driveline ( gears ).
Edit: forgot to say also im still running factory suspension componets. only thing that was changed is the gears and locker. still running the factory control arms with rotted bushings. come this spring some more goodies will be added to the suspension and the car will see low 12's to high 11's with drag radials.
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84 Predator Mustang GT302R [Gone]
89GT: built fairly good (sold)
92LX: 4cyl to 5.0 conv. completed on the cheap (sold)
88GT: 302/AOD,stock 2.73's and traclok, LT's, custom 2 1/2" exhaust made by me with thrush chambered mufflers dumped at rear axle, hayden electric fan..more to come, daily driver.
1988 LX 5.0L/five-speed coupe, ordered WITHOUT air conditioning
Microburst computer module, off-road exhaust w/o mufflers, removed front sway bar, underdrive pulleys, 160º thermostat, 26"x8" Goodyear slicks, 3.73 gears, and a short belt nets 12.99 @ 103 in March of '89.
STOCK heads
STOCK cam
STOCK intakes
STOCK headers
STOCK throttle body
NO nitrous, supercharger, or turbocharger
lol read that awhile back. pretty sad he didnt have to mess with the internals of the motor till he started to dip in the 11's
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84 Predator Mustang GT302R [Gone]
89GT: built fairly good (sold)
92LX: 4cyl to 5.0 conv. completed on the cheap (sold)
88GT: 302/AOD,stock 2.73's and traclok, LT's, custom 2 1/2" exhaust made by me with thrush chambered mufflers dumped at rear axle, hayden electric fan..more to come, daily driver.
just a question tho, you know that 93 5.0's have 20 less hp and 25lbs of torque less than the 87-92's did right?. that right there is why you car isnt going any faster with just a few bolt ons. you really should read about other peoples cars from back in the early 80's to early 90's like Foxchassis posted. you'd be surprised how many people have hit the 12 sec zone with hardly any engine modifications to their car. its all in the suspension and driveline ( gears ).
did you know the only reason for that was a change in the way they rated motors? i guess ur not as birght as you once thougth huh? the only diffference between a 92 and a 93 is th epistons which made little if any difference in horsepower. in 93 they started rating the motors with the accesories on instead of off. so i dont really know what ur laughing at considering it was the same motor used in every fox. and for a minute i almost beleived you knew what you were talking about
Microburst computer module, off-road exhaust w/o mufflers, removed front sway bar, underdrive pulleys, 160º thermostat, 26"x8" Goodyear slicks, 3.73 gears, and a short belt nets 12.99 @ 103 in March of '89.
STOCK heads
STOCK cam
STOCK intakes
STOCK headers
STOCK throttle body
NO nitrous, supercharger, or turbocharger
slicks by them selves will knock off 4 tenths
gears can knock off another 3
and how about letting me see some slips.
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93 lx 5.0, king kobra clutch, bbk 65mm throttle body, 3.73's, electric fan, full length headers, march underdrive pulleys, no smog pump, cats cut off,bbk cold air intake, edelbrock performers, 24lb injectors, 255 lph fuel pump, trick flow track heat intake and crane 2030 13.77@102
Bob C. ran 14.07 with nothing but M/T STREET tires and a ("pretty much worthless" in his own words) chip/module.
Tony D. ran 13.9 with nothing but five extra lbs of air in the STOCK tires and bumped ignition timing, and a 13.7 with an iced intake and no air filter (stock one removed).
You're a tool, dude. You were even born when these guys were doing this stuff. Yet because you can't get your to go that quick, it isn't and wasn't ever possible.
so i dont really know what ur laughing at considering it was the same motor used in every fox. and for a minute i almost beleived you knew what you were talking about
well for one thing theres 2 internal parts that are not the same from 87-93 incase you didnt know. 1 was the pistons which you know about already and 2 is the camshaft change from 88 to 89. therefore the camshaft change in 89 dropped the net hp rating by 2-3hp BUT was never recorded as the net rating as 225hp for 87-92 engines. the only motor i have seen that was rated differently in net power ratings and actually recorded was the 93.
i have driven a couple 93's , both were turds compared to that of a 87-92. drove a stock 88gt and was just a hair quicker than my 89. drove a 90gt (my sisters car) compares with my 89. drove a 91lx compared with my buddies 88gt. like i said before not all cars are created equal both in horsepower and torque. if your car is a turd and cant consider the fact that it is a turd compared to other stock 5.0's then thats your problem. the facts are out there all over the place both in a book and on the net. thats your job to find those facts not mine. beleiving that these cars cant run low 14 sec. 1/4 times factory is your opinion. the 93 cobra (which in fact had a cam change if i remember right)1.7 ratio rockers and the gt40 style intake and gt40 heads was used to attain more power than a stock 93 engine. guy i went to school with had a 93 cobra and run 12.8 - 12.9's all day long with just slicks. only reason that car is no more is that he ran it too many times like that and twisted the chassis making the car inoperable. so yea it IS possible to run low 1/4 times with a factory engine.
anything else you want to know about seems how i "dont" know what im talking about?
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84 Predator Mustang GT302R [Gone]
89GT: built fairly good (sold)
92LX: 4cyl to 5.0 conv. completed on the cheap (sold)
88GT: 302/AOD,stock 2.73's and traclok, LT's, custom 2 1/2" exhaust made by me with thrush chambered mufflers dumped at rear axle, hayden electric fan..more to come, daily driver.
i did know about the cam change, can u tell me the difference between the 2? cause i could. 1 in a few might be able to go high 14's i doing 13's extremely rare. you guys think dissing my car is funny when the bottom line is yours came from the same place. you have named a handful of 5.0s that could do it any faster then a mid 14. and not to mention that the official spec for the 5.0 in 87 with the better cam was a 15.3 but i guess they could of made that up, that makes sense right? and the purposely must of underated the cobra 1/4 mile times 2 i mean it just makes sense huh? and saying 93s were slower than a 90 also makes no sense... considering its the exact same as a 90 with different pistons
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93 lx 5.0, king kobra clutch, bbk 65mm throttle body, 3.73's, electric fan, full length headers, march underdrive pulleys, no smog pump, cats cut off,bbk cold air intake, edelbrock performers, 24lb injectors, 255 lph fuel pump, trick flow track heat intake and crane 2030 13.77@102
another thing i would like to point out is you guys bring up my age and use that against me, but you were the ones who first got personal about saying things about my car specifically when i never took it that far, so lets re-think who is older here i left my opinion on what i have seen and read my own eyes and you were the ones that had to make it personal. A personal argument over then internet is kind of like a race in the special olympics even if you win your still retarded. so for now on lets try to act our ages and not our IQs.Im gonna be the bigger one now...im movin on....
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93 lx 5.0, king kobra clutch, bbk 65mm throttle body, 3.73's, electric fan, full length headers, march underdrive pulleys, no smog pump, cats cut off,bbk cold air intake, edelbrock performers, 24lb injectors, 255 lph fuel pump, trick flow track heat intake and crane 2030 13.77@102
obviously you need to read what you typed in your previous posts.
post #21 : saying only low 15's were possible
post #32 denying post 21 and saying its possible to run 14's but its abnormal.
post# 39 saying the motors are identical with exception of the pistons.
well you got one thing right, the pistons were different. but one thing you probably never figured. they didnt start calculating net hp and tq ratings by the book until mid 93 to calculate the ratings for the new sn95 body style in 94. therefore the ratings from pre 93 5.0's were not accurate. pre 93 5.0's could range from 225 - 240 flywheel hp. the 93 cobra when they rated its power was actually mid 92 when they started to design the car was actually in the 250 - 260 hp range and not 235 as they calculated. dyno's never tell a lie. if your stuck on believing what you do then go for it. and for the reason us dissing you is that you started all this back in your post #21 saying it wasnt possible for these cars to perform the way that they do. ive studied these cars since i was 17 which was 10 years ago. and to hear this from a 16 yr old thats still in high school telling me im wrong, well sir you have a ways to grow up in the real world. think before you speak is what ive always learned.
anyways merry christmas and a happy new year
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84 Predator Mustang GT302R [Gone]
89GT: built fairly good (sold)
92LX: 4cyl to 5.0 conv. completed on the cheap (sold)
88GT: 302/AOD,stock 2.73's and traclok, LT's, custom 2 1/2" exhaust made by me with thrush chambered mufflers dumped at rear axle, hayden electric fan..more to come, daily driver.
wow, i didn't realize that my thread would bring all of this out! Let's begin by remembering why we are here for, and thats for finding answers and helping each other out. We all share one thing in common, and thats a love for ford mustangs. It doesnt matter if your 16 or 70 years old, we all have a common ground for the love and sport of driving this vehicle. I personally love my slower yet still awesome 1994 gt, and use these threads to learn from your experiences with your 5.0's. Now can someone tell me what is the fastest i can drive my car because i have a hard time reaching 80-85 mph? are the 1994 g.t.'s governed at 85mph?Oh yeah, merry christmas and drive safely.
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94' vert with polished bomz cai, magnaflow high flow catted x-pipe, flowmaster series 40's, msd blaster coil, 3:73's, 5 speed manual, yellow top optima battery juicing up the stereo system and more hp coming soon!
The speedometer sweeps to 150 MPH, and I've been a lot high that 85 in my '95 GT convertible.....
well my 94 has a hard time in 5th gear it seems cuz in 4th it will go to 75 just fine and maybe even 80 but in 5th it struggles and i smell a burning scent, maybe oil. I need some help with finding out the problem with this.
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94' vert with polished bomz cai, magnaflow high flow catted x-pipe, flowmaster series 40's, msd blaster coil, 3:73's, 5 speed manual, yellow top optima battery juicing up the stereo system and more hp coming soon!
. come this spring some more goodies will be added to the suspension and the car will see low 12's to high 11's with drag radials.
