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Old 02-20-2008   #1 (permalink)
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Default 1966 fastback missing doortag. Need vehicle info.

I have a 1966 fastback 2+2 with no door tag. When I stripped the car no build sheet was found either. I know it was restored years ago but needs it again. It has white and blue pony interior with floor console, wood steering wheel, dual exhaust through the valance, and styled steel wheels. drum front brakes and non-hipo 289. The car has many GT options but I don't Know what was original or what was added. Is there any way of finding this info with the VIN# or any other source. I think I've read somewhere that this info is not available for any mustang older than 1967, is this true? Any advice or ideas would be helpful
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CRAP! I just typed up a whole post but the wireless signal went out and I lost it!

Oh well, the short version,

There is no way to ever find out the original info as Ford destroyed all the 1966 and before records.

Since some DMVs/Law enforcement do use that tag for inspection I'd atleast have a repro tag with the correct matching VIN (warranty number) than no tag at all, even if all the other data is a guess and most likely will be wrong.

At this point you can fill in the new tag with what you believe the car was originally, what it is now, or what it will be after you're done with the restoration. If the car was unmolested then the original info whould be easier to guess at but since someone's redone it then it could very well have been changed.

You might find some original paint hidden on the body somewhere and figure out the original color. You could get a close build date by comparing your VIN to other cars from the same factory.
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Put your vin in Mustang Secret Decoder Disk that will give you some info but most of it is lost for good.If your lucky and can still read it the build sheet was taped to the wiring harness under the dash that has everything listed if its still there or read able.
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Hello. If the car has front drums, it almost certainly isn't a factory GT, since the front discs were part of the GT package. It would make no sense at all for someone to swap the discs out with drums. Some of the door tag info is indeed lost forever, like the D.S.O., but most of it can be figured out with a little bit of poking around. If you could tell me the vin, I could tell you within a day or two what the scheduled production date of your car was. If you're car is an original pony interior car the door panel won't hit the side of the seat when you close the door. There should be a gap between the door panel and the seat with the door closed. Standard seat back frames are different from pony. Also, you can pull one of the courtesy lights out of the door and look at the rectangular hole. If it looks like someone hacked it out with a sawzall or something, Ford didn't do that. The hole Ford would have put in there was very neat and symmetrical. You can pull out the back seat and look at what color the floor is there. That's what color your car was originally. Most people don't go to the trouble of painting the floors when they repaint a car. The original color is also underneath the undercoating in the front wheel wells up around the hood hinges.You can look around the base of the dash and maybe pull off the courtesy lights and stuff and you will probably see what color the interior was originally. If the rear axle has the tag still on it and it's the original rear end, it will tell you what gear the car came with. If the neutral safety switch hole is in the firewall, the car came with an automatic transmission originally. If it's originally a manual transmission car, there isn't really any way to know if it was a three speed or a four speed car unless it still has the original transmission that still has the tag on the side of it. Hope that helps.
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Veronica didn't the gt mustang have a 9 inch too?
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Veronica didn't the gt mustang have a 9 inch too?
Only the "K" codes. Since the car has been redone at somepoint in it's past there's no garauntee the rear is original to the car. If that 9" had problems there's a good possibility they could have put a 8" in as the 9s are hard to find.

There are quite a few cars out there that have lost thier "more desirable" parts just to make them drivers again. There's a "S" code coupe on ebay with a 302 in the original place of the 390. The car's value is hurt but who knows when the swap was done, if it was back in the 70s or early 80s then at that time they never would have considered the value of the car as all it was nothing but a 10 or 12 year old "used car".
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Yeah i know what you mean i looked 68 coupe the vin said it was a inline6 but it had a 302 c4 a 8 inch and all the v8 parts on it.To someone that didn't know mustangs well they would think it came like that.
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